Sniper And Invizx

[dam0007]

While a lot of you guys are hot on the FC discussion.

Have any of you guys used both in 6#?

I've been using Invizx and their 6# feels like it's a 10# or more breaking strength... Is Sniper legitimate 6# or under rated as well? Is the durability similar as in it just breaks or does it peel like red label?

Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh

Have been debating on switching it up and testing the waters elsewhere. The 6# comparison should give me a good ball park comparison for the other #s as well.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Have you considered YoZuri or other hybrid line? I really believe if a bass is sensitive to line at all is has more to do with diameter than visibility. I like the line with the thinnest diameter/breaking strength. 

[Mike L]

Well in comparision between the 2 lines, I can tell you from my experience with both but in heavier test ratings (min 12#) that Invisex will hold a SDJ or the no name knot better than any floro I've used.

Sniper doesn't kink as much and has a little less stretch, somewhat better sensativity, casts a bit farther and littler smoother.

The breaking strength of both is comparable, but I think Sniper is a more durable line.

Now, maybe on the thinner lines that you're asking about the lines are vastly different. I just thought Maybe I could help anyway.

Mike

[DTack]

While a lot of you guys are hot on the FC discussion.

Have any of you guys used both in 6#?

I've been using Invizx and their 6# feels like it's a 10# or more breaking strength... Is Sniper legitimate 6# or under rated as well? Is the durability similar as in it just breaks or does it peel like red label?

Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh

Have been debating on switching it up and testing the waters elsewhere. The 6# comparison should give me a good ball park comparison for the other #s as well.

I prefer 7lb Sniper.  Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch.  Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper.  I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it.  I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.  

[dam0007]

Thanks all! Appreciate feedback. I'm gonna do 2 660 yard spools, 7 and 12. Still have a full spool of 10# red label but this should be a good start.

[dam0007]

Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?

[Team9nine]

Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?

 

Pretty much...Sniper is the more easier handling and manageable line, Shooter is the more stiffer, abrasion resistant line - a bit tougher to handle. 

 

Haven't messed with Defier yet, but it appears to be along the lines of a Yozuri Hybrid type line, a next gen co-poly that resists UV and doesn't absorb water.

 

On a separate note, I'd be shocked if 6# InvisX tested much greater than 7 pounds or so actual breaking strength. I'd guess nowhere near 10#. Most fluorocarbon lines tend to break within a pound or two of their stated values. I've thrown a lot of InvisX over the years and it is pretty soft stuff. I've never felt like it's strength was that underrated. Probably the extra stretch that makes it's strength a bit deceiving.

 

-T9

[HoosierHawgs]

Well in comparision between the 2 lines, I can tell you from my experience with both but in heavier test ratings (min 12#) that Invisex will hold a SDJ or the no name knot better than any floro I've used.

Sniper doesn't kink as much and has a little less stretch, somewhat better sensativity, casts a bit farther and littler smoother.

The breaking strength of both is comparable, but I think Sniper is a more durable line.

Now, maybe on the thinner lines that you're asking about the lines are vastly different. I just thought Maybe I could help anyway.

Mike

It was definitely helpful for me at least! I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?

[HoosierHawgs]

Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?

I'd say that in terms of price Shooter is more like Tatsu???

[Team9nine]

It was definitely helpful for me at least! I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?

 

Others might disagree, but if you've never tried fluorocarbon before, InvisX is probably one of the best lines a guy familiar with mono or coply can buy to try. It handles much more like a nylon/copoly, and has some of the best knot strength of any fluorocarbon, plus it is relatively inexpensive (from a FC point of view).

 

Another area where people go wrong (IMO) is in buying the same pound test fluoro as they currently use in nylon/copoly. Nearly every brand of nylon/copoly is severely underrated on the spool, whereas most fluorocarbons are just a pound or two different. Therefore, if you're used to using 12# copoly, that actually might have a breaking strength of 16-17#, don't buy a 12# fluoro to try as a comparison. Buy a 15# fluoro if you want a better "apples to apples" test.

 

-T9  

[HoosierHawgs]

Others might disagree, but if you've never tried fluorocarbon before, InvisX is probably one of the best lines a guy familiar with mono or coply can buy to try. It handles much more like a nylon/copoly, and has some of the best knot strength of any fluorocarbon, plus it is relatively inexpensive (from a FC point of view).

Another area where people go wrong (IMO) is in buying the same pound test fluoro as they currently use in nylon/copoly. Nearly every brand of nylon/copoly is severely underrated on the spool, whereas most fluorocarbons are just a pound or two different. Therefore, if you're used to using 12# copoly, that actually might have a breaking strength of 16-17#, don't buy a 12# fluoro to try as a comparison. Buy a 15# fluoro if you want a better "apples to apples" test.

-T9

Yeah I typically use 12 lb Trilene XL. My latest expansion in line is 1 spool of Berkley Pro Braid. 50 lb strength. So far, I like it.

[Mike L]

It was definitely helpful for me at least! I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?

No, If I've never thrown any floro before I would not pay the extra for the "top of the line" stuff like Tasu, Shooter and Sniper until I've used other good, quality but less expensive lines.

There's a leaning curve over mono that you'd be best served to get comfortable with, given your style and intended use.

The "middle of the road" lines like P Line, Invisex, or maybe even the top BPS brand would give you a better idea if floro was something you'd want to stick with. Then if funds allow you can try one of the other more expensive lines and go from there.

Mike

[SenkoGuru]

I don't believe Shooter and red label is a fair comparison. One is $34.00 and the other is $10.00

[HoosierHawgs]

I don't believe Shooter and red label is a fair comparison. One is $34.00 and the other is $10.00

Wasn't comparing. I was saying I don't want to buy cheap line and it to go bad, and I don't want to sink 40 bones into a spool of line either.

[dam0007]

Pretty much...Sniper is the more easier handling and manageable line, Shooter is the more stiffer, abrasion resistant line - a bit tougher to handle.

Haven't messed with Defier yet, but it appears to be along the lines of a Yozuri Hybrid type line, a next gen co-poly that resists UV and doesn't absorb water.

On a separate note, I'd be shocked if 6# InvisX tested much greater than 7 pounds or so actual breaking strength. I'd guess nowhere near 10#. Most fluorocarbon lines tend to break within a pound or two of their stated values. I've thrown a lot of InvisX over the years and it is pretty soft stuff. I've never felt like it's strength was that underrated. Probably the extra stretch that makes it's strength a bit deceiving.

-T9

Example I throw senkos wacky rigged with a size 1 hook in a ML rod with 6# Invizx. There's times I get hung up skipping around trees and I can't break the stuff. Crank down, grab spool and pull for dear life and no break. Lol

[dam0007]

It was definitely helpful for me at least! I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?

Red Label isn't bad at all for the price. I use it a lot for cranks, jerks flukes.

[dam0007]

Grabbed a small spool of 12 sniper to try this weekend gonna wait till Memorial Day sales kick in before I jump overboard.

[benthinkin]

I prefer 7lb Sniper.  Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch.  Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper.  I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it.  I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.  

^^^^^^^^^ This!!!!! 7lb sniper is great stuff

[aprilbass101]

Honestly....Their both good fluorocarbon lines! I'll have to agree with Mike.L. I give the edge to FC....a little less memory, more sensativity, & little less stretch than InvizX! I don't fish 6# test so I can't really compare the two lines for you in that diameter but I do fish 10# & 12# in both lines on my baitcasters. I use InvizX for my crankbaits, FC for single hook applications, & FC for all my leaders! If i'm not mistaken as you go up in FC # their diameters are a few thousands less than most fluorocarbon brands! Good luck

[ChrisD46]

I prefer 7lb Sniper.  Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch.  Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper.  I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it.  I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.  

^^This^^ ... Great size for drop shot or shakyhead - I only have to learn one line now and buying in a larger spool saves $$ !

[21farms]

Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh

i was a big seaguar guy...i've used invisx, abrazx and red label. seaguar was great with communication when i emailed them with questions about their line. however, my last spool of 10# abrazx was bad...it kept snapping me off repeatedly, even with freshly-spooled line and freshly lubricated and carefully tied knots. when i emailed them then, i was totally stonewalled. that opened the door for me to try sunline and i haven't looked back since. i like sniper FC so much better...softer, more supple, doesn't kink as easily and have yet to have a problem with the line...i have it in every test from 7 to 20...great line.

[thehooligan]

I use 7lb sniper on my bfs setups, nice line I just hate tieing knots with flouro. I've actually switched to 4-6lb hybrid.

[dam0007]

i was a big seaguar guy...i've used invisx, abrazx and red label. seaguar was great with communication when i emailed them with questions about their line. however, my last spool of 10# abrazx was bad...it kept snapping me off repeatedly, even with freshly-spooled line and freshly lubricated and carefully tied knots. when i emailed them then, i was totally stonewalled. that opened the door for me to try sunline and i haven't looked back since. i like sniper FC so much better...softer, more supple, doesn't kink as easily and have yet to have a problem with the line...i have it in every test from 7 to 20...great line.

The thread I made is here somewhere but in a nutshell. No one at the time had bulk 10# Invizx for a reasonable price. So I ordered 3 200 yard spools on sale at TW. All 3 spools every 15 inches or so was the littlest almost like a crimp. Not a knick or bump. Just looked like someone pinched it with needle nose pliers. I was thinking maybe I was bumping the edge of that weird lip on the spools the line comes on. Got home after losing some lures and sure enough the remaining line on yes, all 3 spools had the crimps. Utter BS. I was given the runaround on the phone. Emailed never got a response. Finally got ahold of someone a few weeks or so and they said its TWs fault and return it to them.

Any how have the 12# sniper tied on and gonna give it a whirl.

[dam0007]

I use 7lb sniper on my bfs setups, nice line I just hate tieing knots with flouro. I've actually switched to 4-6lb hybrid.

how is 7 on spinning?

[thehooligan]

Don't use spinning reels anymore but I know plenty of guys use 7&8lb on spinning gear with no problems. I prefer braid with fluoro leaders on spinning reels personally...