rboat Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 If your water is not clear just use straight braid. It is strong, plenty sensitive, and no extra knot to fail. Off shore salt water is really clear and many of the guys I know use straight braid out there. If it works in clear salt water it should work in semi - clear fresh water. I use straight braid and did not notice a decline in strikes from using other lines. Many years ago, they used a dacron braid that looked like twisted black thin rope, I remember seeing it on my gramps old levelwind reel. They caught fish with it, so unless your water is super clear braid will work fine, with or without a leader. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted May 10, 2015 Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I'm still trying to digest the whole invisible thing.. It's a fluro myth, it's not invisible under water. http://www.seaguar.com/applications/myths.html See - I told ya this was fun . . . A-Jay Yes u did, I'll post mine tomorrow, start a new one 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 11, 2015 Super User Posted May 11, 2015 this thread makes me realize that i never spooled up any of my reels with that yozuri i picked up cheap not too long ago... Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted May 11, 2015 Super User Posted May 11, 2015 OK so here's the deal with me and Fluorocarbon line ~ I'm not a hater, it's just not for me. If you're using it successfully great. I did not. After using it for One season . . I don't like the bad knot strength - I don't believe the line is invisible - I don't believe it has less stretch than mono and I don't like the high price. I do like braid and I do like mono. They both work well for me when used correctly. I use Braid & a mono leader for many techniques (not all) - I like the versatility. I can change a rig's use by changing the leader size or the type / action of the rod and still use the same main line. Here's an example of what I mean - Take Three reels all with 30 lb braid main line - Put one on a 7 ft MH jig rod with a 17 lb mono leader - I have a jig set up. Take the next reel - and put it on a 7 foot MH glass or composite rod with a 12 lb mono leader and I have a mid depth / lipless crank bait rig. Take the last one put it on a 6'10' MH Graphite stick with a 10 - 12 lb mono leader and I have a jerk bait rod. And so on - - A small box with filler size spools of mono of whatever pound test you need for leaders and you're set. The mainline last 3 years instead of 3 weeks. And the spools of mono are cheap and last at least a year. I buy bulk and fill them myself. I think you get the idea. This works for me and I CAN NOT be the only one doing this - I'm not that smart. A-Jay 1 Quote
Josh Smith Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I used to fish with mono only because that's what we had. I got out of fishing for a while and when I came back 10 or 15 years later, the game had changed. I'm really diggin' my braided line with fluoro leaders. Under certain conditions, the refractive index seems to help. No, not completely invisible, but helps (it seems!) In grass/weeds/etc, I can't find any advantage to fishing it vs straight braid. Josh Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 do you fish often with a slack line? i know i try not to have a slack line, especially when the bait is paused. and even if it is slack, unless it is a ton of slack, i.e. it wouldn't matter because you couldn't set the hook anyways, i have found that the sensitivity of braid is easily viewed and felt as there is virtually no stretch to take up as they take the bait. Slack line sensitivity is very important for bottom contact baits. Yes, braid is a lot more sensitive, but that's only on a tight line. I've been experimenting with this a whole lot lately, and I urge you to do the same. When fishing bottom contact baits, semi slack line is very important. It allows the fish to take the bait without feeling you, and they just seem to bite it better on a semi slack line. I guarantee that a nice fish comes up, eats your bait, and spits it out more than you realize. This is where fluoro has the advantage over braid. Due to its density, it transmits those bites much better on a semi slack line. In shallow water, on a short to average length cast, this doesn't play as big of a role because you can watch the line jump when using braid. Also you have a lot less slack line in the water when fishing shallow water, so the braid doesn't have as much of a bow in it so it's still pretty sensitive. But on a long cast and especially in deep water, braid will bow and slack line sensitivity is definitely an advantage. Larger fish with larger mouths can suck in a bait without it feeling like much at all on your end. 2 Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted May 11, 2015 Super User Posted May 11, 2015 Big game would be fine at least you wont have to worry about your knot or the line failing for no reason. 1 Quote
bassr95 Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 A $10 spool of red label keeps my jig rod in business all season...unless I get too many "professional overruns" Quote
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