Super User scaleface Posted May 9, 2015 Super User Posted May 9, 2015 Like the title says . What are shallow diving , preferably rattleless cranks that do not move a lot of water . New or old . I see lots of old lures at flea markets . Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted May 9, 2015 Super User Posted May 9, 2015 Cabela's Fisherman Flat Sided Porkchop comes to mind.. But it has rattles 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 10, 2015 Global Moderator Posted May 10, 2015 Bandit flat maxx, Spro little jon. 1 Quote
Ginosocalbass Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Rapala Fat rap 5. Youll find plenty at flea markets and they work great and deflect of cover well, ebay has them too. 1 Quote
BobP Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 If you want a tight action you should be thinking flat sided baits and not fat bodied baits. For no rattles, I'd be looking at wooden flat siders regardless of the lip shape. Jmho, Tennessee Tuffy makes some nice ones that have good action and sell for a reasonable price for a custom bait. 1 Quote
Sonik Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I like the Cabela's Flat Side Pork Chop. The Bombay & Lime color is sexy shad. Good cranks and stock hooks in my opinion. 2 Quote
hatrix Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 The Live Target square bills are actually flat And catch me tons of fish. There is a flat crank with a coffin bill but it only dives like 5' or somewhere around there "I think" Rapala makes it and they also catch me tons of fish. It's defietly a DT Flat and they dive 3' or 7' 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 10, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I didnt get to see these suggestions before I made it to Bass Pro today, about 100 miles away. Ended up buying a Rebel Bluegill. Norman had a good looking bait but it had a lot of rattles . Quote
zeth Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Lucky Craft makes flat sided with no rattles. SKT MR model. 2 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 10, 2015 Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I think the SK KVD squarebill series has a fairly tight wiggle, narrower than a Square A or Excalibur. The Norman Mad N and Thin N have very tight wobbles though. 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 10, 2015 Super User Posted May 10, 2015 Rapala DT-Flat 3, that is the first square bill I throw every season as it works in cold water and it is a great bait when the fish aren't moving much, for some reason when they aren't chasing they will eat this. This isn't a typical square bill but the rounded square bill lets it deflect and it has a tight action but it is jointed so it resembles a swim bait, the Bill Norman Flat Broke, those 2 don't has the wide wobble with a lot of thump like regular square bills but they work in the same places and you will actually get fish on them when other square bills don't work. 1 Quote
ksboy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 If you have a square bill you really like but it has rattles, drill a hole where the rattle chamber is and put some super glue in the chamber. Close the hole with epoxy. It shouldn't rattle. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 10, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 10, 2015 If you have a square bill you really like but it has rattles, drill a hole where the rattle chamber is and put some super glue in the chamber. Close the hole with epoxy. It shouldn't rattle. Ive often though about that. Have you done it ? Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 10, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 10, 2015 Rapala Fat rap 5. Youll find plenty at flea markets and they work great and deflect of cover well, ebay has them too. I have quite a few fat Raps. They are one of my favorites but dont have any of the shallow diving small lipped ones . Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 10, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I also picked up some Poe's flat baits from a resell store . Ive never used them before and got a new in box rattleless Speed Trap to try. Quote
ksboy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Ive often though about that. Have you done it ? No, but I don't see why it won't work. Be sure you position the lure so the rattles are either front, back, top, or bottom because you obviously won't be able to change them once the glue dries. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted May 10, 2015 Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I also know that Strike King makes Silent Red Eye Shads Quote
hatrix Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Shad raps and the supers are really good. They cast like junk though. 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 10, 2015 Super User Posted May 10, 2015 If you have a square bill you really like but it has rattles, drill a hole where the rattle chamber is and put some super glue in the chamber. Close the hole with epoxy. It shouldn't rattle. Most of the square bills today that have rattles were designed with the rattle chamber running the length of the bait in order to aid in casting. The rattles also aid in providing ballast and by removing the rattles or balls, or gluing them in place with hinder the action of the bait to the point it won't run correctly. What will happen is the bait will either roll uncontrollably or it will run on the side where most of the weight went after the rattle were glued in place because you'd be extremely lucky to have the weight perfectly centered by just dumping glue into a hole. 1 Quote
primetime Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Bomber Flat A-, Spro little John is flat, Daiwa has a flat sided shallow square bill, The Sebile Ratsler is flat but has a rattle, I would have to go through my box, I consider the shad rap to be flat same as the speed trap...but The Bomber Flat A is really not a square bill but is the flattest I can think of...The Sebile Flatt shad is either a one knocker or silent lipless bait depending on if it is a suspender or Sinking model and nothing I have seen is as thin as that lure, one of my favorites for any depth, cover etc... Quote
primetime Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 The Evolve bait I purchased the Soul is a flat sided square bill that looks great but I have not fished it yet, hooks look small. Quote
primetime Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 You can find videos on you tube how to drill out the rattles on a lure and I have seen it done with the Mann's wakes, and some other Minnow style baits, I give mine to a friend since mine always leek water when I try to turn them into one knockers or add weight etc....Practice on cheap Chinese baits from Ebay first...I forgot the Rapala DT-Flat, I think flash when I think flat sides as well as tight action, the glass shad rap is good for casting on heavier line since the shad rap is hard to cast...I have been throwing the Crème Mad Dad Minnow lately which has a weedless hook and for some reason is much better than all the other soft swimbaits with hooks in my opinion especially for the money..Something about that big eye, I like to buy the saltwater version or the 4.5" but the 3.5 is good, 2.5 is good as well but tough to cast, for $2, it feels like you are reeling in a rattle trap with the amount of vibration it puts off, I have never liked the Storm swimbaits or BPS soft swimbaits but the Crème Mad Dad Minnow is cheap and catches fish in places most traps or cranks can't go and they have cool colors..I would buy a few and try them, I just started using them and really like the bait a lot. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted May 10, 2015 Author Super User Posted May 10, 2015 I have a Creme Mad Dog Minnow. I'll make sure I give it a try next trip . Quote
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