The Big Fight

[SirSnookalot]

Kevin Rooney (his trainer under Jim Jacobs) was training him to be a boxer.  Don King and his clowns were his ultimate downfall in the end.  I agree with snook.  Tyson the skilled boxer,  combined with his natural power, would have been untouchable.

Absolutely true, Tyson first started using the peak a boo style used by Floyd Patterson, also managed by Cus D'Amato.

Rooney took Tyson to an even higher level of skill, Tyson was real hard to hit.  As good as Tyson was he never reached his full potential as both a boxer and puncher.

 

I agree with everyone about the Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran era, they just didn't fight a welterweights, Duran broke in as lightweight.  

The heavyweights around that time were also very exiting, Ali, Forman, Frazier, Norton and people really forget Larry Holmes, really under rated.  Holmes never wanted to fight Ali, being his idol didn't want to hurt the aging Ali.

 

Holmes, who I never met and Hearns who I met quite a few times, both have the the 1 st nickel they made.  They were smart with their money.

 

Jackie Kallen, who was a close friend since grade school, introduced me the the "right" people.  This led me getting press credentials, that's how I attended these fights, as a photographer.  My credentials were not strong enough for the really big fights like in Vegas, but they were for the ones in Detroit.

[Fishing Rhino]

Let 'em fight to the last man standing, or breathing, no matter how many rounds it takes.  That's the way it was when boxing started.

 

No need for judges.

[Nice_Bass]

My thoughts- Mayweather was the clear winner and fought a better fight.  It was a well executed fight and he won.  Was it the fight of the century, no, but a good fight nonetheless.

Still not sure why folks think Pacquiao won that fight....

Being aggressive does not win fights, in fact, a lot of the time it does quite the opposite.   

[.ghoti.]

I haven't seen the fight yet. But I've read a lot of stupid comments about it. I'll reserve judgement until I see it myself, but it went pretty much the way I expected. The only real surprise for me was the fact that Mayweather threw more punches than Pacman. I don't not expect that. Don't think anybody did.

[.ghoti.]

Just watched the fight. Floyd turned in an excellent tactical performance. Not everybody's cup o" tea, I know, but I can't complain about seeing one of the best ever ring generals doing what he does best. Manny spent a lot time looking confused. Floyd does that to everybody. And, poor old Freddie never gave any appropriate advice, that I heard. Him telling Manny "you're winning the fight", was a major mistake. Manny telling the world, after the fight, that he thought he won, made him as delusional as Freddie.

Pacman spent most of the fight following Floyd around the ring. That's usually a recipe for failure. He could not get in position. His normally excellent footwork took the night off. I'm used to seeing him shift back and forth, faster than the other gut can react, to throw punches from angles. He apparently forgot how to do that, simply lunging in the try to land something. He sometimes did land, but of his lunges resulted in a Mayweather counter right to the kisser.

Round 4 was Manny's best round. He clearly won that one. Round 6 was closer, but still Pacman's. Rounds 9 and 10 could have went either way, and the judges did just that. I gave 9 to Floyd, and 10 to Manny.

I scored it 177-111. One judge had it 118-110, and the other two had it 116-112. Can't argue with any of the scores.

And now, about the shoulder business. Don't think it mattered much. Floyd is too fast, too clever in the ring, too accurate a puncher, and too big for Pacquiao.

I, for one, have no interest in a rematch.

[Matthew2000]

I thought Floyd was supposed to hit Paquaio and hug his Girlfriend, not the other way around.

[Redlinerobert]

The torn shoulder will add another dimension to this story. 

 

I, for one, don't care to see a rematch.