Super User K_Mac Posted May 3, 2015 Super User Posted May 3, 2015 X2 X3. Funniest post I've read in a long time. Quote
thomas15 Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Boston, I'm new at baitcasters although I have a medium priced shamanno that I bought 10+ years ago but hardly used it. I also have the Lews you have and a few other reels. I have spent many hours practicing in the yard and still I'm not satisfied with the distance and I get some birds nests also. I'm not going to give you advice except to practice in the yard. Heavier weight is also helpful and I find having the brakes set at a low #3 works best for me, you have to experiment. My son, he has never used a baitcaster and pickes one up. I show him how to adjust it to the lure and he proceeds to make 25-30 perfect casts. So I think problem is we actually try too hard! Stay with it. Quote
bassr95 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 X3. Funniest post I've read in a long time. X4. I thought he was being sarcastic at first... Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 This is the only video you need to watch if you want to learn about the real nature of baitcasters. It's a classic. And don't pay attention to the guy talking but the guy in back. Quote
kikstand454 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 X4. I thought he was being sarcastic at first... X5. Good stuff! !! Hey Hoosier, feel free to send that pos baitcaster to me. ....I don't even care what brand it is. 1 Quote
einscodek Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I've recently picked up my first baitcasting setup and have been frustrated of recently. I got a Lew's Speed Spool LFS on sale for $69.99 http://www.lews.com/casting-speedspool.php AND An Abu Garcia Veritas 2.0 7'0" MH/F Micro Guide. It was a gift and I just noticed the micro guides... But anyways, I've read all about baitcasters, watched a million videos on how to set one up, adjusting the spool tension knob for each lure, brake systems, ect... BUT when I go to cast (i started with a side arm cast), my lure with go 15-20 feet at the most... And when I cast over hand, the lure with goes like straight into the water 10 feet ahead of me and I'll get a huge birds nest... I, first, spooled it with 50# power pro for frog fishing (5/8 ounce frog!) and thought, maybe it's too heavy of a line for a micro guide rod, and then I spooled it with 15# braid and got the exact same result... I'm not whipping it like I would a spinning rod (even tho i tried that), I'm smoothly casting it and have no idea why I can't get any distance... Do I need to oil/grease up a new reel? It seemed to be over oiled when I got it. Also, one thing to point out is, the guides on my rod seem to be 'not' perfectly straight. Could that be the issue? They seem to be leaning left. Any advice??? It's making me only want to use spinning gear for the rest of my life and never use a baitcaster again. I promise, it's not my casting. I'm not that bad/dumb at casting, but I have no idea what the problem could be. Nothing wrong with spinning gear esp for smaller lures and they certainly have their place. I gave up on baitcasters after birdnests started costing me precious line & time on the water and thusly fish.. I said I dont have the patience nor time to become a freespooling freak expert I need to catch fish now.. Quote
Thornback Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 I can tell you the rod and the lure have to work together. If the weight is good I can do beautiful long underarm cast with my bait caster and sometimes when I have a perfect match of rod to weight of lure I can take off both brakes and cast a mile, just letting my thumb feel the spool. But because I use a 7' MH rod if the weight gets too heavy the tip will snap on me and make a mess. The only way I can stop that is tighten down on the spool brake and thus I get short casts. And I have to do sidearm or overhead casts. But anytime you are using a bait caster you should never put muscle into a cast, do a smooth cast and let the lure do the work for you. Quote
kikstand454 Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 ^^^^^^ that is true to an extent. Especially good advice for just starting out. Buy it trully is a practice makes perfect thing. .... you will eventually get to where matching line ans lure and rod matter less and less in casting, and more in presentation and overall comfort. I regularly two handed , overhead cast a spook Jr on a 7' mh/f rod sitting down on my kayak and get 20-30yds. I need that size rod for the fish I'm catching- not the lure I'm throwing. You can do it OP- it really is just spending time learning and gaining experience. 1 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted May 9, 2015 Super User Posted May 9, 2015 ^^^^^^ that is true to an extent. Especially good advice for just starting out. Buy it trully is a practice makes perfect thing. .... you will eventually get to where matching line ans lure and rod matter less and less in casting, and more in presentation and overall comfort. I regularly two handed , overhead cast a spook Jr on a 7' mh/f rod sitting down on my kayak and get 20-30yds. I need that size rod for the fish I'm catching- not the lure I'm throwing. You can do it OP- it really is just spending time learning and gaining experience. The above really sums it up well. I use both baitcast and spinning regularly, but I enjoy BC more for most techniques. For most of us a baitcaster is simply the right tool for the job. For me the occasional backlash is less of a problem than some of the line handling issues associated with spinning. Add to that BC ability to handle heavy line (in a smaller, lighter reel) and it really is an easy choice FOR ME. You may choose one or the other, but there simply is no good argument for the superiority of one over the other in all situations IMO. Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I just want to say thanks for all the good advice and videos on this forum. I too am a life long spinning reel guy that wanted to try something different and bought a bait casting set up this year. I tried it a few times and got very frustrated with the backlashes, lack of distance and control. After reading this thread and looking at the video, I have been practicing in the backyard for a few hours each day and I am now getting it. I'm getting the technique down and am getting more distance, better precision and only a rare backlash. I am determined to get good at this, and the help from this forum has been the reason that I am off to a good start. People watch golfers or someone that is good at something and they think it's easy. It only looks easy because they are using proper technique and they have practiced at it. I will keep practicing until I can easily cast from the seat of my kayak, but at least now I am encouraged to know I will eventually will be able to do it. 1 Quote
Thornback Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Nice post cutbait. I'm glad you are sticking to the bait caster. As you can see it takes practice for a newbee. Some folks get it quickly and others may take longer. Also your thumb will get educated and that can help. Whether you do a side, overhead, or underhand, you must let the lure do the pulling off of your line. Always keep a cast smooth and don't put a lot of muscle in it. I believe the side and overhead are the easiest to master but I believe the underhand is the most accurate. I love a bait caster and wish everyone could experience the enjoyment when you master it. Remember -- You won't miss the line twists and all back lashes can be quickly picked out. You also want to become a master at quickly picking out a back lash Quote
Silas Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I wouldn't suggest a first time caster staring off with BRAID o any kind. There are a host of issues in doing that Take off the braid and save it. Re spool with monofilament. yozuri Hybrid is a good choice, in a medium test( (10-16 lb) That way if you backlash you can remove it and try again. Just one suggestion before you go on about the rod and reel. Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I am using 12# Triline xl and so far I'm just practicing and getting good with the cast from the side. More wrist action for me now is making a difference vs. the over the top forearm and shoulder motion I started with. Before I followed the tips and video, I got some major backlashes. The mono line made getting these out more manageable. I can only imagine how hard it would be to unravel braid from a major backlash. Quote
Thornback Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I can only imagine how hard it would be to unravel braid from a major backlash.I assure you it is a piece of cake. Quote
hatrix Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I wouldn't suggest a first time caster staring off with BRAID o any kind. There are a host of issues in doing that Take off the braid and save it. Re spool with monofilament. yozuri Hybrid is a good choice, in a medium test( (10-16 lb) That way if you backlash you can remove it and try again. Just one suggestion before you go on about the rod and reel. I suppose I will never understand why people think a mono is better to learn on over braid. I can't think of any advantages over braid. Maybe at one point in learning the smoothness of it might help with distance but to start the rough texture of braid really let's you feel the spool spinning. If someone has a reason why it is better to learn with let me know. If your reason is for a backlash then that's nonsense and braid is still superior. Quote
Thornback Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I suppose I will never understand why people think a mono is better to learn on over braid. I can't think of any advantages over braid. Maybe at one point in learning the smoothness of it might help with distance but to start the rough texture of braid really let's you feel the spool spinning. If someone has a reason why it is better to learn with let me know. If your reason is for a backlash then that's nonsense and braid is still superior. I totally agree. Quote
ndejohn27 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I bought this same reel about a month ago when i first started learning how to use a baitcaster and I had 50# power pro on and paired it with a duckett ghost 7'3" H/F micro guide and I struggled at first, and had a lot of bad backlashes but I tightened down the star drag a lot and turned up the magforce brake about 3/4 of the way up and adjust the spool tension accordingly for every lure I use and I started making very smooth and long casts with no backlashes and I've bought 2 other baitcasters since and I haven't had a problem with either of them. Quote
Thornback Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I enjoy hearing stories about anglers mastering the bait caster. Quote
kikstand454 Posted June 15, 2015 Posted June 15, 2015 I don't remmember if this tip is earlier in the thread. .... but if you pull a long casts worth of line out and place a small piece of tape across your reel..... you will save yourself the headaches/cost/ frustration of epic backlashes. You will instead have " professional overruns" that you can practice the " thumb trick" with and easily get back to casting. Quote
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