Dypsis Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I want to start and toy with hard body swimbaits. My heaviest rod is an IMX 844 rated to 1oz, so I know that certainly limits my options. Looking for recomendations on a few to start with. Also, any other info you want to share. Thanks Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Okuma big bait rod is a favorite on this site. Quote
bigturtle Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I think he's asking for baits, not a new rod.For under 1oz, try Savage Gear swimabits. I personally use the glide swimmer(1oz) and lipless 4play swim&jerk(3/4oz). Both hardbody Livetarget also makes 2? hardbody swimbaits, never tried them but both under 1oz. 1 Quote
Dypsis Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 Yes, sorry - looking for lure recommendations. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 - BBZ 1 4" model - savage glide swimmer - River 2 Sea S. Waver - Hudd weedless shad - optimum line thrus 1 Quote
stkbassn Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 You can throw the bbz rat on your rod too. I have two now and they are easily thrown on my Powell 723 Diesel. Lighter than I expected. Fun bait for waking and even cranking down a foot or two. Quote
Super User everythingthatswims Posted April 29, 2015 Super User Posted April 29, 2015 You should be able to toss an s-waver 168 Quote
Big C Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Go with a Spro Rat. Hudd 68 is a good option too, I know it's soft plastic but it is incredible (and weedless). Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted April 29, 2015 Super User Posted April 29, 2015 If you want to get into swimbaits, why not a get a proper rod? 1 Quote
Lacustrine Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 You can get a lot of swim baits for the cost of one good rod and reel. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted April 29, 2015 Super User Posted April 29, 2015 You can get a lot of swim baits for the cost of one good rod and reel. Not that you can throw on a 7' rod with a 1 oz rating. Quote
einscodek Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Yer not gonna be throwin any real swimbaits by west coast standards with that rod.. Quote
Dypsis Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 If you want to get into swimbaits, why not a get a proper rod? I'd prefer to start slow and get a few to try, learn how/where to use them before buying a dedicated setup for them. Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I'd prefer to start slow and get a few to try, learn how/where to use them before buying a dedicated setup for them. That's the best thing. When I was looking into swim baits someone told that. You can drop 30, 40 and much more on a swim, but if you don't use it right. Or it's not your thing, it's a waste. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted April 29, 2015 Super User Posted April 29, 2015 - BBZ 1 4" model - savage glide swimmer - River 2 Sea S. Waver - Hudd weedless shad - optimum line thrus Just curious, have you used any of these baits your recomending? Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 A "light swimbait" set up is worth the investment, and could be used for more than swimbaits(umbrella rig, big cranks, ect.). Just my opinion, but really limited at a an ounce max. Mainly BBZ's, tru tungsten's, couple others mentioned. Quote
timcauliffe Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Start cheap - the best thing about smaller swimbaits is they are cheaper and as effective as bigger swimbaits. You should definitely be able to throw the River2Sea S-Waver 168, Savage Gear 6" Slide Swimmer, Savage Gear 6" line-thru trout or the Savage Gear 5"-6" trout (top hook), Cabela's Live Image Swimbaits, Kanan Swimbaits, Spro BBZ 4" swimbaits, etc. Mostly all can be purchased at Cabela's, Tackle Warehouse, Bass Pro or your local tackle shop. Your best bet is to start with a slide-swimmer / s-waver or get 1 of each kind: 1 sinking trout (moderate or fast), a s-waver, a wake bait, and anything else you think would do well in your local ponds & lakes. This will give you the basics to learn not only the individual swimbaits themselves, but retrieves and techniques that will help trigger the bites. Quote
BW208 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 With the Hudd baits how do you determine what rate of fall you want? Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted April 30, 2015 Super User Posted April 30, 2015 OP just get some Decoy Hydra Tails. Best 1oz top hook swimbait at a reasonable price IMO. I like top hooks because they are decently weedless but you can still just rip for the hills when you feel the thump. Those and the Biwaa S'Trouts- but you've got to be more careful w open trebles. Then you've got the small slide swimmers and S-Songs but that's $$. Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Try and find a baby hardgill they can be thrown on mh-h rod And 100-200 size baitcaster. And they get bit! Or a black dog baits g2 shellcracker they can be thrown on conventional tackle that work really well Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted April 30, 2015 Super User Posted April 30, 2015 I used a Strike King Baby King shad some last year and had some success. It doesn't require a heavy rod, and while I didn't hit any big bass, I did get a follow from a solid 40+ Muskie with it, so the big fish potential is their. it was a very user friendly bait to toss. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 30, 2015 Global Moderator Posted April 30, 2015 I used a Strike King Baby King shad some last year and had some success. It doesn't require a heavy rod, and while I didn't hit any big bass, I did get a follow from a solid 40+ Muskie with it, so the big fish potential is their. it was a very user friendly bait to toss. My biggest 5 fish limit in Kansas was on a full sized King Shad. They're fragile but they have the right profile to attract big fish and don't require any special equipment to fish them. The Decoy Hydratail is a great bait that is affordable and easy to fish on MH rod, same with the Opti line thru or Savage 6" Line Thru. Quote
primetime Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Check out the Reaction Strike Swimbaits on Overstock bait and tackle for $2.99 and $3.99 if just getting started. They OEM for many of the expensive companies and many lures by companies like Bettencourt and others are usually super cheap on that site since the market is saturated with swimbaits...You will need to upsize the treblE hooks on the reaction strikes, I use the same size hook that comes on the Spro BBZ which I belive is 1/0 or 1, but the 3" and 4" come in wake, slow, suspend, fast...I find wake and fast fall are the 2 I use most, and the colors are not the best from Reaction Strike since they put the nice paint on the expensive lures, but they are plenty good... Also, Cabelas makes a Copy of the Sebile for $4.99 But ebay has the Sebile Magic swimmers for under $10 and they are really good imo. We just had a batch of Spro BBZ 4" arrive for $7.50 each here in Florida so I would guess guys are selling them on ebay for $10 or so, I picked up a dozen for myself since they list for $25 and I actually do well with the Spro. I have had 2 S Wavers and neither was a quality Glide bait imo, I like the Savage Glide a bit better but that is normal since they are considered cheaper glides, however the Bomber Glides and Rapala Glidin Rap, strike Pro and Sebile's work just fine...I am a river2sea guy, I like the wide glide lure itself in suspending and floating, just not lucky with the S wavers, Check Overstock, they have Deals for the expensive Swimbaits that usually are like $50 for $20, but you may not enjoy fishing them......Maybe try the soft versions first? Megabait Charlie is a good starter. Quote
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