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Just go back to mono. Mono lines have greatly improved in the last few years. The type of fishing you are doing is not real subtle or finesse, so you will still feel the bites with a good mono and a good rod.

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I find it completely laughable the excuses y'all come up with when trying to bad mouth mono!

First it was line stretch which has been proven completely false.

Then it was abrasion resistance, in my experience Berkly Big Game is more abrasion resistant than any fluorocarbon made.

Then it was sence of "feel" especially with bottom contact techniques.

Feeling bites depends on who is holding the rod, in many cases what is transmitted up the line and down the rod is lost in the brain.

I've said it before if y'all really want to improve on "feel" go night fishing during the new moon phase. I do not mean for a couple hour, dedicate an entire year to night fishing.

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I use P-Line Flouroclear coated Line and P-Line CX on all my rods and reels except for flippin around heavy cover. I use a 30 lb power pro slick braid with a P-line Leader. I love the CX and have been switching over to that as the Flouroclear doesn't seem as strong as the CX. Feel wise the CX actually feels alot more sensitive and doesn't seem to have as much stretch to it. It's all in your preference. The CXX seems ok on my baitcasters but i dont like it on spinning gear, as it seems to have too much memory to it. The CX works well on both. There are some really good lines in all cat. BBraid, mono, flouro, and Hybrid, as well as some really horrible lines. Just do as i have and alot of other have. Experiment and see what you like the most. What I like and what works well for me or others may not work well for you or your style. I do Highly recomment you try out the P-line CX. I havent been able to find it on shelves anywhere around me so I ordered mine thru Tackle warehouse. I had a few recommend it to me and the reviews were great so I gave it a try and Glad I did because it is now my line of choice. I have tried alot of line and stripped alot of reels with new line because I just hated it and thought it was garbage. and I HATE wasting money like that! I knw youre against braid but I believe if you try the slick braid from power pro you might change your mind about braid. I know I did! Best of luck to you!

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i'll address something that will sting for a second and move on.  learn how to use your baitcaster.

take the time to learn how to use your equipment w/o back lashing. you shouldn't be burning through that much fluoro or mono or braid and/or breaking line that often. just know that most of us are guilty of it and have gone thru it ourselves. you are not alone.

over the years i've lost lots of lures and fish to poor mono knots, then poor fluoro knots, then poor braid to leader connection knots! it seemed never ending.  there was a learning curve each time i changed equipment. i was heartbroken each time i lost a lure let alone a bass.  but never once did i blame my line. i knew it was 100% my fault b/c my knots weren't right or i didn't check my line often enough and it was nicked, or i picked out a back lash and didn't want to throw away 60ft of line but paid the price when a kink broke on the hook set. like others i made the decision to learn how to correct all the problems and learn my equipment.

imo there are 4 kinds of backlashes:

1 stopping ur cast short.  say ur cast goes from 5 o'clock to 12 o'clock (12pm being ur target).  stopping abruptly at 10pm will definitely cause a backlash. you have to follow thru every cast to 12 o'clock/the target. it's simple muscle memory and makes a world of difference.

2 back handed casts.  i'm a rightly and after I got that down i realized i was far more likely to back lash on back handed/lefty casts.  the problem and fix is the exact same as #1. I wasn't following thru on my cast. after taking the time to analyze it the fix was easy.

3 not adjusting the spool tension knob for each new lure tied on. a jerkbait has far more wind resistance and needs more spool tension than a rattletrap.  take the time to adjust ur spool tension according to each new lure you tie on.  there is no such thing as one setting all day.  it will lead to constant backlashes.

4 the need for distance.  trying to get the maximum distance from every single cast will lead you to open up ur spool tension and/or magnetic brakes causing tons of backlashes.  be happy making slightly shorter casts while learning how to properly tune ur equipment.

 

these issues will have to be address regardless of which line you choose. good luck

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I used Trilene and Stren for years. Stren in the later years was better. No knots breaking. I have some 15# CXX coming. I don't know if it was a good move to buy it or not. I didn't care much for the floroclear. I like using Seaguar Invisx. I'm going to buy a spool of Tatsu and give it a try, lot a money, it better be worth it.

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Dude use your finger on the line to transmit bite detection. You will feel just about everything you would with fluoro. This works very well with flipping and pitching, And all right with long lining.

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Well guys... After all this discussion, going back and forth with people, everyone giving advice and different lines to check out.. Iv decided to stick with my fluorocarbon. :jaw-drop:

 

I went over my personal pros and cons today, and its just one of those things Iv gotta deal with. I like fluoro, I really do. I just need to learn to manage it better. A few guys on here have made some good points, so hopefully it goes better! Thanks to everyone for the input though.

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You can play it safe and not get back lashes or you can gradually push it and become a much better caster. I can cast any bad line 25 to 30 yards. But a good line I can cast 40 to 50 yards. If I want to launch into the wind ieven further. I have had bad backlashes learning but it has been worth it. I still get small backlashes but it is worth the extra time in the water If you watched the bassmaster hourly coverage you would now and thensee them pulling a backlash. My partner is the opposite of me he never pushes it and he never backlashes. A good cast for him is 25 yards but it fits his style. He is a patient line watcher. If it fits go for it but pick a cheaper line.

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