Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I need advice from anyone and everyone who has made the switch back to using mono for bottom contact baits from fluorocarbon... Iv been strictly using fluoro on two of my rigs for the past year and some change. Worms and jigs mostly. For various reasons it just seems like I'm going through it way too quickly. The occasional backlash is aweful too. Fear of line breaking is just getting old. My questions for you guys is, is there REALLY a noticeable difference in the transmission of "feel" going back to mono? Also what about the stretch? Thanks guys. Load me down with input. I'm really tempted to make the switch back. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 My questions for you guys is, is there REALLY a noticeable difference in the transmission of "feel" going back to mono? Also what about the stretch? Thanks guys. Load me down with input. I'm really tempted to make the switch back. Yes there is, but in your case, it will be a noticeable difference in the lack of feel going back to mono. On the other hand, stretch is a wash, IMO. Wouldn't worry about that too much. Whatever works best for you is what you need to be using though.... -T9 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 I need advice from anyone and everyone who has made the switch back to using mono for bottom contact baits from fluorocarbon... Iv been strictly using fluoro on two of my rigs for the past year and some change. Worms and jigs mostly. For various reasons it just seems like I'm going through it way too quickly. The occasional backlash is aweful too. Fear of line breaking is just getting old. My questions for you guys is, is there REALLY a noticeable difference in the transmission of "feel" going back to mono? Also what about the stretch? Thanks guys. Load me down with input. I'm really tempted to make the switch back. Which FC are you using? I have some setups with FC that have not been changed in a year. The mono I use usually last about two months. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 You might want to transition back using a copolymer line. Yo Zuri Hybrid or P-Line CXX would be a good start. They do not transmit vibration quite as good as fluorocarbon, but do a better job than mono IMO. There is a real difference in feel in these lines; you will have to decide whether it is a deal breaker or not. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. 1 Quote
WPCfishing Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Personally I would not switch back. Go to a heavier line and try different brand if needed. Mono will never get you the feedback Flouro will. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Iv been using 15# red label. Its good line, I like it pretty good, it just seems like it gets gone too quick between re-ties and have had some backlashes that have had the line completely break in the middle of the spool. The cost is just wearing me out. I want to keep my sensitivity but also want to save money. I can buy huge spools of mono for what Iv paid in all the 200 yard spools of fluoro. Racking my brain!! Quote
Alpha Male Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 You have 2 choices as i see it. Step up with fluoro, go from 10lb up to 15lb. Or go with a co-poly line. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 I will say this, and please give me any kind of constructive criticism. Never asked or thought about this before. When I'm fishing a jig or Texas rig, I ONLY throw them around banks and any cover around the banks. My bait never reaches depths any deeper than 4-5 foot at most. Would this even be enough to affect sensitivity? Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 Of course you can switch back. Do you not line watch at all? See where I'm going here... Yozuri is a tough as nails line, CXX Is too, CX is a softer blend & comes in clear/blue, soo, guess what, I give you a full day on the water, and the transition is over.. I can feel just fine with those lines and a very good rod.. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Iv been using 15# red label. Its good line, I like it pretty good, it just seems like it gets gone too quick between re-ties and have had some backlashes that have had the line completely break in the middle of the spool. The cost is just wearing me out. I want to keep my sensitivity but also want to save money. I can buy huge spools of mono for what Iv paid in all the 200 yard spools of fluoro. Racking my brain!! Same experience redline is so tough too. It's so hard, it makes casting a challenge, and have had to breaks in the middle of the spool. One while fighting a 5 pounder I was PO'd. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Of course you can switch back. Do you not line watch at all? See where I'm going here... Yozuri is a tough as nails line, CXX Is too, CX is a softer blend & comes in clear/blue, soo, guess what, I give you a full day on the water, and the transition is over.. I can feel just fine with those lines and a very good rod.. I always line watch, which is kinda why I'm even considering going back in the first place. Iv never considered a co poly line. How is price compared to both mono and fluoro? Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 Have you considered using braid with a flouro leader? It has many advantages, e.g. Almost zero line stretch. Excellent sensitivity. A very long life span. Backlashes can be removed without damage to the line. Much smaller line diameter per pound of test when compared to flouro or mono. 2 Quote
WPCfishing Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I suppose if you're pitching or flipping in shallow water go for it. I use my jigs in many more environments so I use a different approach in the different applications. If your only fishing soft structure I don't see how the Flouro can let you down. If you said you are working rocky floors with 12# test I would say as I did before. Get 20# line. This isn't adding up in my mind. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 Cheaper & tougher than Redlabel.. There's several venders on the bay, TW, and others where you can sometimes get exceptional buys. http://yo-zuri.com/Products/Yo-Zuri_Fishing_Line/details/Yo-Zuri_Hybrid.html Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Have you considered using braid with a flouro leader? It has many advantages, e.g. Almost zero line stretch. Excellent sensitivity. A very long life span. Backlashes can be removed without damage to the line. Much smaller line diameter per pound of test when compared to flouro or mono. Iv never considered braid only because leaders seem like they're too much to fool with for me personally. ..everyone on here is trying to help. I'm too picky =( Quote
WPCfishing Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Here's a question for you, how far are you casting to get into your 4' water? Have you considered buying a more expensive Flouto? Red Lablel is an open water line. Cranks come to mind. Get some 20# Abrazx Flouro. Spend the 25 bucks. You won't regret it. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Here's a question for you, how far are you casting to get into your 4' water? Have you considered buying a more expensive Flouto? Red Lablel is an open water line. Cranks come to mind. Get some 20# Abrazx Flouro. Spend the 25 bucks. You won't regret it. I don't cast at all. I'm a bank fisher, so I go all along the banks flipping and pitching to any cover I can find. Quote
lectricbassman Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Iv never considered braid only because leaders seem like they're too much to fool with for me personally. ..everyone on here is trying to help. I'm too picky =( I thought the same thing. My big fear is the leader breaking off. Im using 30lb powerpro with. 12lb seaguar red label to test the waters with a leader setup. So far its working far better than i had expected. Alberto knot is an awesome knot, its simple to tie and i have yet to see one fail. In fact i had to break off a lure yesterday, my knot at the lure snapped first and i was pulling so hard i was sure the leader knot would fail! Quote
Super User Darren. Posted April 28, 2015 Super User Posted April 28, 2015 There are plenty of folks here that do not swear by fluorocarbon line. I like the ideas of switching to a copoly like Yo-Zuri Hybrid, or another brand. I use Hybrid as well as P-Line Floroclear, both have fluorocarbon properties (YZH is a bond between nylon and FC, while P-Line is coated with FC). YZH is dang strong, and cheap enough that you can buy up a good 600 yard spool for around $8... You already (basically) said no to braid, but that's my choice for mainline and I tie a leader on. This way your single spool of fluoro would last you a lot longer in six foot leader increments... 2 cents. Quote
Mccallister25 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 There are plenty of folks here that do not swear by fluorocarbon line. I like the ideas of switching to a copoly like Yo-Zuri Hybrid, or another brand. I use Hybrid as well as P-Line Floroclear, both have fluorocarbon properties (YZH is a bond between nylon and FC, while P-Line is coated with FC). YZH is dang strong, and cheap enough that you can buy up a good 600 yard spool for around $8... You already (basically) said no to braid, but that's my choice for mainline and I tie a leader on. This way your single spool of fluoro would last you a lot longer in six foot leader increments... 2 cents. Thanks Darren. This won't be the first time you've helped me out. Imma check into that Yo Zuri hybrid. 1 Quote
CRANKENSTIEN Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 You might want to transition back using a copolymer line. Yo Zuri Hybrid or P-Line CXX would be a good start. They do not transmit vibration quite as good as fluorocarbon, but do a better job than mono IMO. There is a real difference in feel in these lines; you will have to decide whether it is a deal breaker or not. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. I don't trust floro as much either. Cxx gives me good sensitivity it is reasonable and durable. It handles well once it gets wet Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Have you considered using braid with a flouro leader? It has many advantages, e.g. Almost zero line stretch. Excellent sensitivity. A very long life span. Backlashes can be removed without damage to the line. Much smaller line diameter per pound of test when compared to flouro or mono. you can lead a horse to water... for the sake of all things holy at least rig one rod with braid to leader. Quote
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