Issue With Lew's Tournament Pro Tp1Hl Please Read

[acmintun]

Hello everyone, I have a newish Lew's Tourney Pro, left-handed, in 6.4.1 that I took apart and did an inital cleaning. I purchased the reel in early December and it has worked like a dream. After my initial cleaning I reassembled the reel and I generally go through the same process with the reel when I finish cleaning. I slowly rotate the handles to ensure the grease in thoroughly spread out, speed up gradually, then do an set of start and stops to ensure that the gears and pins are engaging propely etc etc. 

 

Well my final "stress test" is a higher speed start and stop and when I came to the stop the spool rotated another full turn and make a rapid clicking sound until it stopped(handle was not spinning). The pinion gear, yoke, and springs are in good condition so I am at a loss as to what it could be. Maybe I over lubricated? I dont know, any help is appreciated.

[a1712]

If high speed start and stop means engaging the clutch while turning the handle, don't do that. Brian.

[acmintun]

No I am not engaging the clutch

[masterbass]

Are you spinning the handle and engaging the clutch and stopping with the handle?  I hope not because it will strip or damage the gears/pinion. 

[masterbass]

I don't think you should do your "high speed test."  It will damage the gears/pinion.  It is not necessary and it doesn't sound like there is anything wrong with your reel....yet.

[acmintun]

No, the clutch is engaged before I start, I would not put that kind of pressure on the clutch since there is absolutely no fishing application to that. It does appear that the yoke is not fully seated/flush against the cam plate when the clutch is engaged. I did not bend the bottom of the pinion gear or anything like that. 

[bassinyea]

what do you mean when you say the clutch is engaged before you start?  Thumb bar down or up?  If you press the thumb bar down and fling the spool as fast as you can and then engage your handle you are basically doing the same thing as engaging your reel in the middle of a cast which is not a good thing to do.  

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I'm having trouble visualizing what a "high speed start stop" means, but it doesn't sound good. If the spool spins freely with the clutch disengaged and the clutch re-engages with a turn of the handle then it's working properly. 

[WPCfishing]

Send it to a Lews warranty center. Don't waste time trying to figure it out, just get it fixed.

[bigfishbk86]

AR-ratchet anyone??

[J Francho]

The spool pins are slipping over the engagement grooves on the pinion gear. It's a fail safe, but also can be indicative of overly compressed or weak yoke springs. One thing is for certain, this isn't a fishing situation you are duplicating, unless you reel in a break off really fast, and stop. Probably not - there's always some resistance from the bait and line the water. In other words, there probably nothing wrong with reel, and stop doing this test.

[jj'sbassinforfun]

I think what he's doing is spinning the handle fast and then stopping it cold. Once stopped the inertia of the spool slips the drive pin past the pinion contact grooves. Not sure what the OP is trying to simulate and Agree with Francho. About the only thing it will accomplish is wearing out the pinion gear and drive pin.

[acmintun]

I stopped doing the test and figured out what was wrong, I kind of guess it was the spool pin but nice to hear confirmation. problem solved, thanks guys

[WPCfishing]

Good for you, glad the issue is resolved.

[Bassmaster96]

On 4/27/2015 at 11:38 AM, J Francho said:

The spool pins are slipping over the engagement grooves on the pinion gear. It's a fail safe, but also can be indicative of overly compressed or weak yoke springs. One thing is for certain, this isn't a fishing situation you are duplicating, unless you reel in a break off really fast, and stop. Probably not - there's always some resistance from the bait and line the water. In other words, there probably nothing wrong with reel, and stop doing this test.

 I recently purchased this same lews online from someone who had done the same thing. Looking to put the time and fix this issue as I have already replaced the spool pin and the issue is still happening what would your recommendation be next to change the pinion gear and possibly the yoke?

[bulldog1935]

@Bassmaster96 should be, all you need to do is tighten the right side cap.  

 

When you're bench-building an Ambassadeur, you ballpark center the spool using the end caps.  You tweak both caps to get proper line lay filling the spool.  

But to final center the lined spool, you tilt the reel to the right and freespool-drop a weight on the line.  You get the same pinion/spool-pin interference grind because the right cap is too far open.  You tighten and keep repeating this drop to find the incipient tightening point where the noise goes away, then add an extra safety partial turn in the right-side cap.  You do all this with the left cap open wide, and finish by adjusting final spool side play (or tension) in the left cap.  

 

 

basically the same on any reel, except newer reels don't have a left side cap, so all adjustment is in the right cap.  

[J Francho]

13 hours ago, Bassmaster96 said:

 I recently purchased this same lews online from someone who had done the same thing. Looking to put the time and fix this issue as I have already replaced the spool pin and the issue is still happening what would your recommendation be next to change the pinion gear and possibly the yoke?

Nothing to fix.  If you reread my post, you can replace the yoke springs, but if the spool tension is loose, it will do the same thing anyway.  It's literally designed to do this to prevent wear on the pinion.

[NavyToad]

If he's still using the reel after 8 years, I'd say he got his money's worth.