Super User Jeff H Posted April 24, 2015 Super User Posted April 24, 2015 Lipless/traps are the ones that plague me most. 2 Quote
aprilbass101 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Top water #1....Crankbaits #2....Spinnerbaits #3 Like someone said earlier.... Quality "Sharp Hooks" Huge difference.....Ratio hookup will increase for sure! Gama,Owner,Mustad,VMC Moderate rod will help on the crankbaits! Slap on a trailer hook to your spinnerbaits & they won't be throwing it ever again Quote
bigturtle Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I know how big a 2/0 is and that's as big as I'll ever need for fishing for green fish or any freshwater fish. And yes when gator fishing in eufala the guys use anywhere from a 5/0 up to 10/0 treble on braid and a heavy setup to snag em. Fish up here are bigger than what you have down there if 2/0 is all you ever need. we have 30lb+ musky and pike that require 4/0-7/0 hooks up here in Canada. Large 7lb+ bass occasionally hit lures with 5/0 hooks too. 5/0 hook looks tiny to me if you are using it to snag alligator gars. Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted April 24, 2015 Super User Posted April 24, 2015 Lipless/traps are the ones that plague me most. This. Surprised no one mentioned this before. Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted April 24, 2015 Super User Posted April 24, 2015 Buzzbaits and spinnerbaits for sure. Finding recently bladed jigs can get thrown a lot. Only happens when the bass choke it, and you hook that soft fleshy part inside their mouth. Just pulls through. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 24, 2015 Super User Posted April 24, 2015 Larger Treble hook baits are notorious for being thrown by jumping bass. A-Jay yup yet oddly enough, the same baits are great at being totally engulfed by things with teeth, that you pray bites you off so you ain't got to go in that cave of razor teeth to get it out, but those are the times when even 4lb line becomes like steel. 1 Quote
wnybassman Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Whatever lure you happen to be using in a critical moment during a tournament..........................is the lure most likely to be thrown by a bass. Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Fish up here are bigger than what you have down there if 2/0 is all you ever need. we have 30lb+ musky and pike that require 4/0-7/0 hooks up here in Canada. Large 7lb+ bass occasionally hit lures with 5/0 hooks too. 5/0 hook looks tiny to me if you are using it to snag alligator gars. Catch 30lb+ stripers on 2/0 or less hooks. Also know of a few guys on here(myself included) who use 11" swimbaits or bigger with 2/0 hooks or less and they catch musky and pike in the 40"+ range. Quote
*Hank Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Topwaters have proven to be the worst for me. X2. Quote
bigturtle Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Catch 30lb+ stripers on 2/0 or less hooks. Also know of a few guys on here(myself included) who use 11" swimbaits or bigger with 2/0 hooks or less and they catch musky and pike in the 40"+ range. too small Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted April 24, 2015 Super User Posted April 24, 2015 Top water #1....Crankbaits #2....Spinnerbaits #3 Like someone said earlier.... Quality "Sharp Hooks" Huge difference.....Ratio hookup will increase for sure! Gama,Owner,Mustad,VMC Moderate rod will help on the crankbaits! Slap on a trailer hook to your spinnerbaits & they won't be throwing it ever again Not all sharp hooks help when it comes to spinnerbaits!!! I've been making spinnerbaits for just about 17 yeas now and there use to be 2 brands of hook I wouldn't use but now there are 3, Gamakatsu, Owner, and Trokar, and this is even with a trailer hook. I only use Mustad and VMC spinnerbait hooks, and that is because I was trying out some Gamakatsu hooks on my spinnerbaits about 10-12 years ago, I was catching smallmouth and I would lose about 1 out of 4 and I could not understand why until I landed a fish and as soon as I lipped it and took the pressure off the line, the spinnerbait fell out and it was then when I learned a good lesson. Gamakatsu, Owner, and Trokar are hooks that use a cutting point, that means they have multiple edges that cut like a knife, Mustad, VMC, and Eagle Claw have needle points (Owner makes an Aberdeen hook with a needle point now), needle points have a single sharp point and it pierces throught the fish's mouth rather than cuts through it. So, when you throw a spinnerbait and the fish hits it from the side, if it gets the hook in the membrane part of the mouth and jumps and head shakes, the cutting points will actually tear a larger hole allowing the fish to turn an throw the bait. A softer rod helps but does not eliminate the problem but when I use needle point, round bend hooks my landing percentage is much higher. BTW, trailer hooks are good for short strikers, I once had a fish throw the main hook only to end up with the trailer hook sticking him in the gill and the fish was just about dead, after that I will no longer use a trailer hook, just my preference, but it doesn't keep them from throwing the bait. Quote
livemusic Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 I back reel to stop smallmouth from jumping. I started doing this last when an old timer told me about it. It works well. What does back reel mean? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 24, 2015 Global Moderator Posted April 24, 2015 What does back reel mean? Disengage your reels anti reverse so the reel handle turns backwards. I do this in favor of using the drag but no idea how you would do it to stop a fish from jumping? Quote
Catch 22 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Not all sharp hooks help when it comes to spinnerbaits!!! I've been making spinnerbaits for just about 17 yeas now and there use to be 2 brands of hook I wouldn't use but now there are 3, Gamakatsu, Owner, and Trokar, and this is even with a trailer hook. I only use Mustad and VMC spinnerbait hooks, and that is because I was trying out some Gamakatsu hooks on my spinnerbaits about 10-12 years ago, I was catching smallmouth and I would lose about 1 out of 4 and I could not understand why until I landed a fish and as soon as I lipped it and took the pressure off the line, the spinnerbait fell out and it was then when I learned a good lesson. Gamakatsu, Owner, and Trokar are hooks that use a cutting point, that means they have multiple edges that cut like a knife, Mustad, VMC, and Eagle Claw have needle points (Owner makes an Aberdeen hook with a needle point now), needle points have a single sharp point and it pierces throught the fish's mouth rather than cuts through it. So, when you throw a spinnerbait and the fish hits it from the side, if it gets the hook in the membrane part of the mouth and jumps and head shakes, the cutting points will actually tear a larger hole allowing the fish to turn an throw the bait. A softer rod helps but does not eliminate the problem but when I use needle point, round bend hooks my landing percentage is much higher. BTW, trailer hooks are good for short strikers, I once had a fish throw the main hook only to end up with the trailer hook sticking him in the gill and the fish was just about dead, after that I will no longer use a trailer hook, just my preference, but it doesn't keep them from throwing the bait. The piercing vs cutting statement makes lots of sense. Blade baits are my plague of bass throwing hooks. And when you get down to it,what does it matter if you lose a few fish,its usually c & r . C22 Quote
Slefler Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 The last two outings I've had a squarebill spit back at me, twice. Of course I landed the crappie and catfish that decided they wanted to eat it. Quote
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