Do You Like Fluorocarbon Line?

[illinifan4152]

I use flouro for just about every application. No problems here.

[jyu87]

Using myself as a perfect example. Never bit into the fluorocarbon hype until I got heavy into bait casters. Now I basically only use it for all my fishing.

It basicially showed me where braid really failed. Still love the properties of braid BTW.

I still have one reel with braid but I never really needed to revert back. I love the invisible presentation of FC.

Only drawbacks I have found were some backlashes and kinks where I would cast and immediately wonder why my line snapped and there goes my lure lol. Hate when that happens.

Type of FC made a big difference as well. I used Seagur Invisx first. Switch to Sunline FC Sniper, I love it!

[ChrisWi]

Agreed. I don't get how all of these people are having issues with fluorocarbon???

it's the people who don't do the little things like finding abrasions, not wetting knots, and not carefully picking out birdsnests.

[J Francho]

That's a bit presumptuous, don't you think? There are plenty of detail oriented anglers that don't need fluorocarbon to achieve great success in fishing.

[Turtle135]

Personally, I just do not trust flourocarbon. Every season I watch guys I am fishing with break off average fish with fluorocarbon leaders or main line. Just not for me. I think the advantages that flouro offers does not come into play for 95% of the fishing I do.

[Cgrinder]

I like it. I get by with straight 10 lb Red Label and a simple San Diego Jam knot. 

[K_Mac]

Yes, I use it as mainline and as leader, depending on the specific situation. I find it a welcome advancement, especially that it sinks and transmits vibration.

This pretty well sums up my thoughts. As I've said before, it works for me.

[ChrisWi]

That's a bit presumptuous, don't you think? There are plenty of detail oriented anglers that don't need fluorocarbon to achieve great success in fishing.

I didn't say that fluoro was the superior line and the only line to use, every type of line has its use and benefits.

[Penguino]

I didn't say that fluoro was the superior line and the only line to use, every type of line has its use and benefits.

No, what you said was that people who have problems with fluorocarbon " don't do the little things like finding abrasions, not wetting knots, and not carefully picking out birdsnests". Personally, sticking with a higher quality of fluorocarbon is what I like. Using cheaper fluorocarbon is a big no-no for me.   

[Rich in Co]

I like it on my jig & worm rods it has served me well

[RoLo]

Fluorocarbon has 3 negative properties I find hard to digest:

> It's almost as wiry as the titanium wire leaders I use for pike

> It has very poor knot strength

> It streeeetches

 

Unlike other line materials, fluorocarbon is susceptible to cellular fractures (cracking).

For this reason, the connection knot you use has a huge effect on breaking strength.

No matter how much saliva you add, the wrong knot is bound to fail.

Early on, it was the Albright knot, then the Alberto knot and now it's the No-name knot.

The 'No-name knot' is tied with a doubled line, and will generally break an 'A' knot.

 

Roger

[Alpha Male]

After reading this whole thread, and the others like it, I can say that there are plenty of fishermen that eagerly buy into the propaganda associated with the fishing line industry.

Facts i have looked in to about fluoro:

Stretch - this is a joke. Like all line (that isnt braid) it stretches, some more than others, but the same goes for mono/copoly. Its up to you to do your research. I switched from invizx to P-line because of this.

Knot strength - FAR INFERIOR knot strength compared to mono/copoly (even when tied correctly) i NEVER broke off a fish with my 12lb invizx it had one of the best knot ratings on the TT tests of fluoro knots. The P-line i just switched to was far lower in the rankings and i wont lie that i am worried about it.

Smaller diameter - it does have a smaller diameter than the same strength mono/ccopoly. BUT.... Look at the tests that can be found on the web 12lb yozuri breaks at over 17lbs and invizx breaks at 11.8lbs. The 12lb yo-zuri has a diameter of .338mm and 12lb invizx has a diameter of .28mm. LESSON...rule#3 - dont believe what youre told...double check.

Fluoro sinks - this is a kind of true. I say that because technically, it does sink in a glass of water with no current, however, in the real world in a lake with current the line has such little mass that the sink rate would be measured in feet per hour. That said the fact that it does sink does exactly Zero to make your crankbait run deeper. This is achieved due to the smaller diameter.

There are plenty of other myths that i wont get into and will let everyone else duel it out on those. My opinion is that fluoro has its uses but go into the relationship knowing what the shortcomings are before hand.

[Ultra7580]

Flouro is awesome. It has its purpose as does braid and mono. With that being said cheap flouro is a bad idea, the higher end stuff is the only way to go. I currently use tastu and have found this line to be the best for me.

[K_Mac]

Alpha Male your post is classic. In any discussion of line there is always at least one who will contend that all who don't agree with his/her/their position really isn't smart enough to make an informed decision. Do you really believe that all of us who use fluorocarbon are simply fooled by the marketing? Give me a break! I have used many different lines over a lot of years. I like many of the properties of fluorocarbon. I respect the opinions of those who do not care for fluorocarbon. Please give those of us who do the same respect.

[Alpha Male]

Alpha Male your post is classic. In any discussion of line there is always at least one who will contend that all who don't agree with his/her/their position really isn't smart enough to make an informed decision. Do you really believe that all of us who use fluorocarbon are simply fooled by the marketing? Give me a break! I have used many different lines over a lot of years. I like many of the properties of fluorocarbon. I respect the opinions of those who do not care for fluorocarbon. Please give those of us who do the same respect.

First off... I like fluoro, for certain situations. Aside from the stretch of invizx that caused me to seek other line for my fluoro needs I have yet to experience any of the negatives commonly associated with fluoro.

Secondly...there are at least 4 posts in this thread that repeat the propaganda that is printed on the box. I do not think that you or even quite a number of other members can't form your own opinions and do your research, but there have been more than a half dozen of these threads in the last month. So its seems there are more than a handful of people on this site even who read that fluoro has lower stretch than mono, that fluoro sinks and because of that it will make your crankbaits run deeper.

The purpose of my post was to inform people and the OP that fluoro has its uses but despite the gains it does have short comings when compared to other line types.

The purpose of my post was not to antagonize, bully, or insinuate that fluoro is bad line. Neither was my post meant to coerce anyone into or keep anyone from buying fluoro. I have 9 baitcasters and 7 spinning combos. Out of 16 setups 4 have straight fluoro, 5 have straight braid, 4 use braid with a fluoro leader, and the rest use mono/copoly.

I feel fishing line is like a toolbox, I use the line I "feel" is right for the job.

[K_Mac]

Alpha Male you make a well reasoned case. I overeacted to your original post. I apologize. There are some who won't see any point of view other than their own; you clearly are not one of them. Thanks for your input.

[ThatZX14Fella]

Don't like it, but I'm thinking about trying it again with some line treatment just to give it a fair chance to impress me.

[rboat]

I tried it and did not really care for it. It does not seem very manageable, kind of stiff and easy to snap and break, needs to lay on the reel perfectly, needs extra conditioner and very carefully tied, or special knot tying. These seem like some of the little things that take a bit of the fun out of fishing. I have bought several spools of FC and may give it another try. The sinking characteristic is not a big plus because our lakes are shallow and weedy. With the majority of responses on this thread being against FC why do all the pros, like KVD, insist that FC is the best? Is it just because they are paid to sell it? I guess I am still on the fence. Mono and braid have served me well so far.

[WPCfishing]

After reading this whole thread, and the others like it, I can say that there are plenty of fishermen that eagerly buy into the propaganda associated with the fishing line industry.

Facts i have looked in to about fluoro:

Stretch - this is a joke. Like all line (that isnt braid) it stretches, some more than others, but the same goes for mono/copoly. Its up to you to do your research. I switched from invizx to P-line because of this.

Knot strength - FAR INFERIOR knot strength compared to mono/copoly (even when tied correctly) i NEVER broke off a fish with my 12lb invizx it had one of the best knot ratings on the TT tests of fluoro knots. The P-line i just switched to was far lower in the rankings and i wont lie that i am worried about it.

Smaller diameter - it does have a smaller diameter than the same strength mono/ccopoly. BUT.... Look at the tests that can be found on the web 12lb yozuri breaks at over 17lbs and invizx breaks at 11.8lbs. The 12lb yo-zuri has a diameter of .338mm and 12lb invizx has a diameter of .28mm. LESSON...rule#3 - dont believe what youre told...double check.

Fluoro sinks - this is a kind of true. I say that because technically, it does sink in a glass of water with no current, however, in the real world in a lake with current the line has such little mass that the sink rate would be measured in feet per hour. That said the fact that it does sink does exactly Zero to make your crankbait run deeper. This is achieved due to the smaller diameter.

There are plenty of other myths that i wont get into and will let everyone else duel it out on those. My opinion is that fluoro has its uses but go into the relationship knowing what the shortcomings are before hand.

 

Which P-Line did you switch to? I tried the Floroclear yesterday. Not a bad line but it doesn't cast like Invisx and the feel for my baits were reduced considerably. Especially my jigs. I'm going to try the CXX. I have a strong feeling I'll be sicking with Flouro.

[Alpha Male]

Which P-Line did you switch to? I tried the Floroclear yesterday. Not a bad line but it doesn't cast like Invisx and the feel for my baits were reduced considerably. Especially my jigs. I'm going to try the CXX. I have a strong feeling I'll be sicking with Flouro.

 

 

I switched to P-line 100% fluorocarbon. According to TT it has half of the stretch of invizx, unfortunately I didnt see the knot strength chart or i might have went with 15lb instead of 12. But I will give it a shot.

 

Also Fluoroclear and CXX are copoly lines, I do have some 20lb CXX, but I just wanted to try it because of how strong it is.

[WPCfishing]

As I said I use Seaguar Invisx, Prior I was using Stren mono. I'm not looking back. The Invizx cast better and the feedback from my baits is 100% better. 

12lb for everything but worming and jigging. I use 20lb. I'd like to try Tatsu but the cost is just to high. If anyone out there is using Tatsu let me know what you think of it. 

I do have some cxx coming, I'd cancel the order if I could. 

[WPCfishing]

Flouro is awesome. It has its purpose as does braid and mono. With that being said cheap flouro is a bad idea, the higher end stuff is the only way to go. I currently use tastu and have found this line to be the best for me.

Tell me more about Tatsu if you have a minute. I'd like to try it but the cost is holding me back. Maybe you can tell me something that will spark me.

[Alpha Male]

As I said I use Seaguar Invisx, Prior I was using Stren mono. I'm not looking back. The Invizx cast better and the feedback from my baits is 100% better. 

12lb for everything but worming and jigging. I use 20lb. I'd like to try Tatsu but the cost is just to high. If anyone out there is using Tatsu let me know what you think of it. 

I do have some cxx coming, I'd cancel the order if I could. 

 

Its still worth having some CXX just be aware that its not true Fluoro.  I think that next year I will try Sunline shooter. it supposedly has the lowest stretch out of any fluoro according to TT. and average knot strength

[WPCfishing]

Its still worth having some CXX just be aware that its not true Fluoro.  I think that next year I will try Sunline shooter. it supposedly has the lowest stretch out of any fluoro according to TT. and average knot strength

 

I had planned on buying Sunline Reaction but they only offered a 200 yard spools. I wanted the 1000 so I could save some money. I went with the Seaguar for that reason.

[J Francho]

Just so we're clear...

CX and Fluoroclear are fluoro coated

CXX is a copolymer

InvisX is fluoro 100% as is P-Line 100% Fluoro

Tatsu is two fluorocarbon formulas extruded as one - think "co fluoro" like "copoly"