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Well they kinda stuck a camera where a fish would be and would be looking if there was a commotion. Do all of you're realistic swimbaits look like fish in the water ?

Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile!

  • Super User
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Swimbaits a reaction bait. Yeah, sometimes. Mostly not, that's why they're so realistic looking.

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Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile!

How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait.

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What the!!!!  That thing is crazy.  Shoot on tough days I would be thrilled to catch even one that size, let alone use it as bait.

I seen that on FB a couple of days ago, I think. That thing is crazy. Anyone know who made it?

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How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait.

 

You can make an argument that glides are reaction baits imho. Just like how you want a realistic jerkbaits with FC on clear pressured water; you are still invoking their sense to feed, by letting the fish have a good long look at it, and then making that twitch. 

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How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait.

I see where you're coming from, but some swim baits are definitely reaction baits. Burning a TT through grass is just one example

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Few things are more realistic than a good, natural colored plastic on a dropshot rig

 

Agreed. Dropping one of these natural colored bad boys on dropshot has to be THE best goby imitating lure - without getting too detailed.

 

Power Team Lures JP Hammer Shad

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I see where you're coming from, but some swim baits are definitely reaction baits. Burning a TT through grass is just one example

A TT? And that's is one out of quite a few.

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You can make an argument that glides are reaction baits imho. Just like how you want a realistic jerkbaits with FC on clear pressured water; you are still invoking their sense to feed, by letting the fish have a good long look at it, and then making that twitch.

I see glides as a dying fish more. But yes it could be used in that sense, that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking.
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I see glides as a dying fish more. But yes it could be used in that sense, that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking.

And we don't know what a  bass does see or what colors they see!!

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And we don't know what a  bass does see or what colors they see!!

AGREED!!!!

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Every animal's brain recognizes patterns. Pretty sure they are just recognizing the bait as something in distress, therefore being an easy target.

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, that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking.

 

LOL, that was the point of my original statement when I quoted this:

 

That's false, if you watch Dave mercers show they showed a fish eye view of what it looks like. You could see some of the top and all of the side.          

 

 

 

 

Have a great day Junior.

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I seen that on FB a couple of days ago, I think. That thing is crazy. Anyone know who made it?

That's a custom Ando(Japanese custom builder). He builds some "wild" baits.

Some of his other baits...

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Google "Yoshihiko Ando"

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The Jackall Gantarel's are pretty realistic/amazing looking to me.

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Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile!

While a frog can be a reaction bait if you're throwing it within, say, 5 or 6 feet of a school. But throwing it further means it helps to be realistic. If I'm burning in a frog in open water, or even in cover, I like it to be a pretty realistic color, because after reeling it a bit, I'm gonna stop and let the bass swim up to it. In that time, if they register that it's not a frog, they may not strike. Then again, I like some crazy colors for reaction strikes. 

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LOL, that was the point of my original statement when I quoted this:

 

 

 

Have a great day Junior.

You got me. I was wrong you were right.
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While a frog can be a reaction bait if you're throwing it within, say, 5 or 6 feet of a school. But throwing it further means it helps to be realistic. If I'm burning in a frog in open water, or even in cover, I like it to be a pretty realistic color, because after reeling it a bit, I'm gonna stop and let the bass swim up to it. In that time, if they register that it's not a frog, they may not strike. Then again, I like some crazy colors for reaction strikes.

What even ? Distance has nothing to do with reaction or not. Throwing it further helps realism ? Where have you found these studies? You like a natural color on the pause, for a reaction strike ? Or do you like crazy colors for a reaction strike ? A reaction strike has very little to do with the color you are using. Because you want the fish to react at the motion of the lure.
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Swimbaits a reaction bait. Yeah, sometimes. Mostly not, that's why they're so realistic looking.

Very few of my swimbait bites are what I'd call a reaction bite. doesn't mean that the bites aren't violent

  • Super User
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It's awesome what you see the shadow, and it finally commits.

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What even ? Distance has nothing to do with reaction or not. Throwing it further helps realism ? Where have you found these studies? You like a natural color on the pause, for a reaction strike ? Or do you like crazy colors for a reaction strike ? A reaction strike has very little to do with the color you are using. Because you want the fish to react at the motion of the lure.

Let me rephrase that - throwing it further than 6 feet away from cover. I like a bright flashy color for a reaction strike, so it catches their eye and gets em mad. But it's mostly personal preference. That being said, I definitely prefer a more realistic color when I'm throwing in clear water, open water, anywhere new; basically anywhere I'm not looking to throw a bait right on top of the fish. 

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That's a custom Ando(Japanese custom builder). He builds some "wild" baits.

Some of his other baits...http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h326/

fbshaeffer/yoshihiko%20ando%20lures_zps6w6kektz.jpg

Ever catch any on the ducklings?

Google "Yoshihiko Ando"

Don't know, but probably, he catches fish on most all of his baits...

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