BasshunterJGH Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Few things are more realistic than a good, natural colored plastic on a dropshot rig Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted April 15, 2015 Super User Posted April 15, 2015 Well they kinda stuck a camera where a fish would be and would be looking if there was a commotion. Do all of you're realistic swimbaits look like fish in the water ? Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 15, 2015 Super User Posted April 15, 2015 Swimbaits a reaction bait. Yeah, sometimes. Mostly not, that's why they're so realistic looking. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile! How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait. Quote
travis23 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 What the!!!! That thing is crazy. Shoot on tough days I would be thrilled to catch even one that size, let alone use it as bait. I seen that on FB a couple of days ago, I think. That thing is crazy. Anyone know who made it? Quote
IAY Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait. You can make an argument that glides are reaction baits imho. Just like how you want a realistic jerkbaits with FC on clear pressured water; you are still invoking their sense to feed, by letting the fish have a good long look at it, and then making that twitch. Quote
MIbassin Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 How do you know did you ask the fish ? And no a swimbait isn't a reaction bait, you should really learn that just because it's hard dosent me its a reaction bait. I see where you're coming from, but some swim baits are definitely reaction baits. Burning a TT through grass is just one example 1 Quote
poebassin Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Few things are more realistic than a good, natural colored plastic on a dropshot rig Agreed. Dropping one of these natural colored bad boys on dropshot has to be THE best goby imitating lure - without getting too detailed. Power Team Lures JP Hammer Shad Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I see where you're coming from, but some swim baits are definitely reaction baits. Burning a TT through grass is just one example A TT? And that's is one out of quite a few. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 You can make an argument that glides are reaction baits imho. Just like how you want a realistic jerkbaits with FC on clear pressured water; you are still invoking their sense to feed, by letting the fish have a good long look at it, and then making that twitch.I see glides as a dying fish more. But yes it could be used in that sense, that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking. Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted April 16, 2015 Super User Posted April 16, 2015 I see glides as a dying fish more. But yes it could be used in that sense, that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking. And we don't know what a bass does see or what colors they see!! Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 And we don't know what a bass does see or what colors they see!! AGREED!!!! Quote
IAY Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Every animal's brain recognizes patterns. Pretty sure they are just recognizing the bait as something in distress, therefore being an easy target. 1 Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted April 16, 2015 Super User Posted April 16, 2015 , that being said we don't know what the bass are thinking. LOL, that was the point of my original statement when I quoted this: That's false, if you watch Dave mercers show they showed a fish eye view of what it looks like. You could see some of the top and all of the side. Have a great day Junior. 2 Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I seen that on FB a couple of days ago, I think. That thing is crazy. Anyone know who made it?That's a custom Ando(Japanese custom builder). He builds some "wild" baits.Some of his other baits... Google "Yoshihiko Ando" Quote
5fishlimit Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 The Jackall Gantarel's are pretty realistic/amazing looking to me. Quote
FrogTastic Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 Yep! And swimbaits are more of a reaction bait. On a sunny day there is no way a bass can see the color side of a frog and then add wind speed. Most frogs are fished in slop or heavy weeds. I do fish a frog in open water alot but I still do not beleave that they see the color of the frog's side.The bottom of a frog I think they may see color. Most of the time I think they see a dark profile! While a frog can be a reaction bait if you're throwing it within, say, 5 or 6 feet of a school. But throwing it further means it helps to be realistic. If I'm burning in a frog in open water, or even in cover, I like it to be a pretty realistic color, because after reeling it a bit, I'm gonna stop and let the bass swim up to it. In that time, if they register that it's not a frog, they may not strike. Then again, I like some crazy colors for reaction strikes. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 LOL, that was the point of my original statement when I quoted this: Have a great day Junior. You got me. I was wrong you were right. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 While a frog can be a reaction bait if you're throwing it within, say, 5 or 6 feet of a school. But throwing it further means it helps to be realistic. If I'm burning in a frog in open water, or even in cover, I like it to be a pretty realistic color, because after reeling it a bit, I'm gonna stop and let the bass swim up to it. In that time, if they register that it's not a frog, they may not strike. Then again, I like some crazy colors for reaction strikes.What even ? Distance has nothing to do with reaction or not. Throwing it further helps realism ? Where have you found these studies? You like a natural color on the pause, for a reaction strike ? Or do you like crazy colors for a reaction strike ? A reaction strike has very little to do with the color you are using. Because you want the fish to react at the motion of the lure. Quote
basshole8190 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Swimbaits a reaction bait. Yeah, sometimes. Mostly not, that's why they're so realistic looking. Very few of my swimbait bites are what I'd call a reaction bite. doesn't mean that the bites aren't violent Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 17, 2015 Super User Posted April 17, 2015 It's awesome what you see the shadow, and it finally commits. 1 Quote
FrogTastic Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 What even ? Distance has nothing to do with reaction or not. Throwing it further helps realism ? Where have you found these studies? You like a natural color on the pause, for a reaction strike ? Or do you like crazy colors for a reaction strike ? A reaction strike has very little to do with the color you are using. Because you want the fish to react at the motion of the lure. Let me rephrase that - throwing it further than 6 feet away from cover. I like a bright flashy color for a reaction strike, so it catches their eye and gets em mad. But it's mostly personal preference. That being said, I definitely prefer a more realistic color when I'm throwing in clear water, open water, anywhere new; basically anywhere I'm not looking to throw a bait right on top of the fish. Quote
MIbassin Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 A TT? And that's is one out of quite a few. Triple Trout Quote
southernson1989 Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 That's a custom Ando(Japanese custom builder). He builds some "wild" baits. Some of his other baits... http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h326/ fbshaeffer/yoshihiko%20ando%20lures_zps6w6kektz.jpg Ever catch any on the ducklings? Google "Yoshihiko Ando" Quote
Dogmatic Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 That's a custom Ando(Japanese custom builder). He builds some "wild" baits. Some of his other baits...http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h326/ fbshaeffer/yoshihiko%20ando%20lures_zps6w6kektz.jpg Ever catch any on the ducklings? Google "Yoshihiko Ando" Don't know, but probably, he catches fish on most all of his baits... Quote
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