bassguytom Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Am I the only guy that does not like to use O rings? Every time I try them it seems like I don't hook up as much. I would love to buy less Senkos by using them but I'd also rather catch more fish. Am I doing somthing wrong or have I not given them a fair shake? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 I don't wacky rig all that much but when I do, I Always use the O-ring deal. Slamming a hook through a Senko is almost certainly a one & done situation for the bait, at least for me. A-Jay Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 Use a band of 3/8" electrical heat shrink tubing like this: A perpendicular inserted hook has a higher hook-up ratio than a parallel inserted hook 1 Quote
yakingfisherman Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Ive never had a problem hooking up with the orings. Hook up ratio seems the same as if i didnt use the o ring. Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I have not had a problem with the hook up using O-rings, but I do have a problem with the weed guard getting pulled inside out. Hard to figure how that happens. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 9, 2015 Global Moderator Posted April 9, 2015 I didn't have a problem hooking fish, but I almost always lost the bait and O ring on the first fish So I not only got to lose a Senko every fish, I got to lose an O ring too! I don't use them anymore. Quote
Super User MickD Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 I use O rings without problems. I think if you are losing O rings you may be using too large a ring. Try a smaller, tighter fitting one, sized so that to get it onto the senko you have to roll it on rather than slide it on. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 9, 2015 Global Moderator Posted April 9, 2015 I use O rings without problems. I think if you are losing O rings you may be using too large a ring. Try a smaller, tighter fitting one, sized so that to get it onto the senko you have to roll it on rather than slide it on. I had to use the special tool just to get them on, still lost the worm and the O ring almost every time using a 1/0 Gamakatsu wide gap finesse hook. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 I do not use O-rings as they are expensive and it doesn't leave you the option of putting your hook in both directions, unless you use two O-rings. This is my technique which, to me anyway, is both cost effective, secure, and invisible: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/9471-wacky-rigging-my-way/ Have used these for many years now. They work well. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 I don't use O rings. I do use Eco Pro Tungsten Pro Wacky Weights though. They keep the hook in a vertical position, and help you get a few more fish out of each worm. They really shine when trying to get your bait down a little quicker in deeper water as well with the heavier weights. I usually use the 1/32 oz ones all the time though and absolutely love them. Quote
Jaderose Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Use a band of 3/8" electrical heat shrink tubing like this: A perpendicular inserted hook has a higher hook-up ratio than a parallel inserted hook This^^ Quote
Super User MickD Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 The "rigging my way" post looks very good. I'll have to try it. A friend likes steel split rings, but if you like a slower fall, the plastic ideas make the most sense. Quote
Theangler1 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I always pre rig my senkos with I rings prior to fishing tournaments. I don't have a problem with it. I always hook them right in the roof of the mouth. Quote
mcgreggor57 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I use a zip tie. It seems to work well enough. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted April 9, 2015 Super User Posted April 9, 2015 Senkos & o-rings - it is important to use the correct size. 3/8 OD by 1/4 ID is the correct size. If you are spending more than a penny a piece for 0-rings, you're spending too much. orings.com got me phone numbers of different regional suppliers, one of which was in St. Louis, relatively near me. 10 bucks plus shipping got me a nearly lifetime supply of o-rings at a penny a piece. The woman on the phone apologized for the price being high, but because it was such a small order it was the best she could do. I disagree with the notion that using o-rings tears up senkos any more than any other hooking method with senkos. I've had senkos last all day - 10 or 15 fish before then disintegrated fishing them o-ring style. Last year I tried 2 o-rings, criss crossing them and running the hook underneath the x that is formed. I didn't that that it worked that much better than one o-ring, but I did like how it set the hook up perpendicular to the bait, so I'll probably continue using that set up for the time being. I have a dedicated senko rig. A 6'10" Falcon Bucco rod, the Bucco version of the older Eakins jig rod, a chronarch 50 reel and I generally use 14 or 15 lb fluorocarbon. Hooks - currently prefer the Falcon weighted wacky hook - the one with the 1/16 oz weight molded on to the shaft of the hook and a mouse trap style wire weed guard. I like the slightly faster drop that the 1/16 oz weighted hook gives me. Quote
The Fisher Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I use O rings from TW and their tool to get them on. They fit Senkos perfectly. Have not noticed a difference with or with out other than I can get 5 or so more fish with the O Ring. It's a durability thing. TW has cheaper tools or you can use a pen. The screw lets you adjust the tool for 4,5,6" worms. Just stick the worm in and slide the O Ring over it. Rings are pretty cheap. When the Senko starts to rip I take the ring off to use again. http://www.***.com/Wacky_Tool_Accessories/catpage-WKYTL.html Place *** where the 3 *s are in the link. Don't know why the proper link did not upload. Quote
Mumbly Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Senkos & o-rings - it is important to use the correct size. 3/8 OD by 1/4 ID is the correct size. For which size Senko? Quote
BaitMonkey1984 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 My go to lure is the 5" GYCB senko in watermelon creme. I have used the O-ring and have not noticed one iota of difference between the hook ups. I do occasionally get lazy and rig them up without the o -ring but then its one worm for one fish and after a few bites I go back to using the O-ring. Quote
CDMeyer Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I am going to try that electrical tape idea. Looks very effective Quote
RSM789 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I use O rings without problems. I think if you are losing O rings you may be using too large a ring. Try a smaller, tighter fitting one, sized so that to get it onto the senko you have to roll it on rather than slide it on. X2 I used to lose 4" Senko's off the O-ring until I realized the rings I were using were designed for the larger worms. I moved down a size and now routinely catch over 10 fish before the worm is too chewed up to keep using (& into the Mend-it later bag they go). In fact, I lose more Senko's to snags under docks that I can't get to than to fish pulling the worm off. Usually when fighting a fish, the Senko just slides right up the line. If your hookup ratio is low, it may be the hook you are using. I like the Owner wacky rigged hooks, they are actually similar to circle hooks. Rare are the times I get a strike & don't hook up and a portion of those may be bluegill tugging on one side of the worm. Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted April 10, 2015 Super User Posted April 10, 2015 Use a band of 3/8" electrical heat shrink tubing like this: A perpendicular inserted hook has a higher hook-up ratio than a parallel inserted hook thanks to an article you had on another site somewhere (long since lost the article) you walked through the heat shrink method.... after a couple dry runs trying to find the heat shrink tube, i found it and never looked back. it's ridiculous how much longer the bait will last, not to mention your hook will never move during the cast. thanks wayne! Quote
RanndomUndead Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I use the tiny black rubber bands for hair, double/triple them up. Hook lines up with the bait and you can just use mend it to fix it whenever it runs into trouble Quote
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