Jig Hookset On A Long Cast?

[ABW]

I've been missing fish lately on my jigs. I fish from the bank and normally fish jigs like a Texas rigged worm on 20-30 yard cast. After I feel a fish, I reel down and then set the hook vertically, but I have been missing them this way. I'm using a 6'8" MH rod with 14 lb Sniper. The jigs I'm using don't have stout or light wire hooks on them. I read somewhere that setting the hook like a Carolina rig (sweep hookset) with this would help on a long cast. Is this true? Is more force generated when the line is laying more horizontally than vertically?

[Penguino]

What action rod? and what brand? I would prefer a heavy rod for jigs.

[Matthew2000]

Don't reel down, just pull it real hard as soon as you feel the bite. Works for me unless I haveslack out then it's just a mess.

[ABW]

What action rod? and what brand? I would prefer a heavy rod for jigs.

MH EF Powell. Like I said these hooks aren't heavy wire flipping hooks at all. It's a 1/4 oz All Terrain Skip N Jig.

[Smokinal]

Sniper fluoro? That stuff is like a rubber band. You wouldn't have that issue with a braid/leader setup. Not looking to start the whole braid vs fluoro thing, just sayin.

[ABW]

Sniper fluoro? That stuff is like a rubber band. You wouldn't have that issue with a braid/leader setup. Not looking to start the whole braid vs fluoro thing, just sayin.

 

I know, I used to fish them with braid with a leader but I didn't like how when I tried to adjust my spool tension for a bait the leader knot would get caught in the guides.

[Bass_Fanatic]

I throw a football jig on 16lb sniper and have never had a problem. I throw em on a powell 714. Reel down to em and sweep the rod to the side, almost like a Carolina rig hook set.

[Ozark_Basser]

Braid/fluoro helps. Also, a longer rod really helps, but at the end of a long cast, its harder to stick them regardless. I'm 6'3 and and it takes all I have to stick one at the end of a long cast at about 40 yards with a 1/2 oz jig and a 7H rod, and I'll still miss them if they catch me off guard.

[ABW]

I throw a football jig on 16lb sniper and have never had a problem. I throw em on a powell 714. Reel down to em and sweep the rod to the side, almost like a Carolina rig hook set.

I'll try this the next time I go out.

[WRB]

Use the search tool, click on the gear icon to the far right of the search box, then type in "Oldschool horizontal jigging", read that thread.

Tom

[Big C]

In the words of the famous Ron Popeil.  "Set it and forget it."

[gulfcaptain]

Sniper fluoro? That stuff is like a rubber band. You wouldn't have that issue with a braid/leader setup. Not looking to start the whole braid vs fluoro thing, just sayin.

That's what I do....but agree, not trying to start the which line is better.  A longer rod might help as will move more line quicker.

[WRB]

That's what I do....but agree, not trying to start the which line is better. A longer rod might help as will move more line quicker.

Do you know how much line a rod 7'4" verses a rod 6'6" moves a jig cast 90 feet away when ripped hard upwards from 10 O'clock to 12 O clock, a traditional hook set? zero! If I told you I can hold the jig Between my thumb and index finger and you could swing for the fences at 90 feet away, using a traditional hook set, the jig wouldn't leave my fingers.

If you first reel the line tight or until you feel resistance, then sweep the rod back hard, the jig my hit you with a hard force, you can't hold onto the jig. The forces are 100 fold with a reel set and rod sweep verses a hard rod set without taking up all the slack line first, when the jig is cast horizontal over 90'.

The longer rods helps to make longer casts and control big bass when coupled to high IPT reels that helps to take up line faster.

Tom

[gulfcaptain]

Do you know how much line a rod 7'4" verses a rod 6'6" moves a jig cast 90 feet away when ripped hard upwards from 10 O'clock to 12 O clock, a traditional hook set? zero! If I told you I can hold the jig Between my thumb and index finger and you could swing for the fences at 90 feet away, using a traditional hook set, the jig wouldn't leave my fingers.

If you first reel the line tight or until you feel resistance, then sweep the rod back hard, the jig my hit you with a hard force, you can't hold onto the jig. The forces are 100 fold with a reel set and rod sweep verses a hard rod set without taking up all the slack line first, when the jig is cast horizontal over 90'.

Tom

Agree with with you, was a reference to possibly looking into a longer rod....but yes in order to get any good hookset at 90ft you have to use  proper technique and that would require taking the steps you stated.  My suggestion for the longer rod will not be a fix all.  Just a adding to the discussion.

[Catt]

Drop the rod, reel the slack, & set the hook!

[scaleface]

Drop the rod, reel the slack, & set the hook!

^^ Thats the way I do it. Even worked in the 70's when the rod was   5.5 foot inches long and spooled 14 lb Stren .

[Nice_Bass]

Yeah...I use sniper fluro as well and it works just fine....sometimes fish can just be lost...or sometimes it is a bit more technique in hooksetting.

[scaleface]

One of the bass Pros { dont remember which one ] use to make this jig , with the forked weed guard. I would scrape the underside with a pocket knife to bend and weaken it. It got out of the way fast and did not interfere with hooksets. Use to buy them 12  to a card. This is my last one and will not use it. Look at that price .

 

[00 mod]

Just to be clear here, a 7'4'' rod will move more line on a hookset than a 6'6'' rod will, if all things are equal. 

 

Just make sure you drop the rod, reel the slack line until you feel pressure and set the hook hard!  Works for me at least!

 

Jeff

[BrianinMD]

Fully agree with 00 mod, I use a Dobyns DX745 paired with a Chronarch 200E7 spooled with 20lb Abrazx flouro. My hookset is exactly as 00 mod describes and it works very well for me.

[tholmes]

Drop the rod, reel the slack, & set the hook!

 

This is the way I've always done it. Works like a charm. I'm using a 7' MH rod and 20 lb. Trilene Big Game, 

 

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[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Minus adjustment for reel seat location a 6'6" rod swept from 9:00 to 12:00 (90*) will move the tip 10.362 feet. A 7' rod will move the tip 10.99 feet. The difference is .628' (7.5") Once the slack is removed it shouldn't matter what plane the sweep is made on, in as far as how much line (and hook) is moved. 

 

I try to be quicker on the draw with jigs than plastics as they don't seem to hold them as long. I try keeping the tip low enough as working the jig so there's always some rod avilable to set the hook without too much reeling down. 

[RanndomUndead]

From my personal experience, the longer the cast, the less you really want to set a hook.

Mainly because the further its out, the more your setting it horizontally.

Other guys, instead of letting the fish set the hook itself, will lift the rod up as high as they can and reel/set.

The other trick i know is to wait until you get a hint of the bass turning away and then set the hell out of it. Horizontal or not, making a bass do a 180 with a hook in its mouth is bound to hook something

[scaleface]

From my personal experience, the longer the cast, the less you really want to set a hook.

Mainly because the further its out, the more your setting it horizontally.

Other guys, instead of letting the fish set the hook itself, will lift the rod up as high as they can and reel/set.

The other trick i know is to wait until you get a hint of the bass turning away and then set the hell out of it. Horizontal or not, making a bass do a 180 with a hook in its mouth is bound to hook something

What if the bass is swimming toward you ?

 

Try to rig the trailer so it  cannot interfere . After all these years Im still experimenting on attaching trailers. Thread them on the shank or just run a hook through them . I have always used a trailer just because everyone else does.  

[RanndomUndead]

What if the bass is swimming toward you ?

 

Try to rig the trailer so it  cannot interfere . After all these years Im still experimenting on attaching trailers. Thread them on the shank or just run a hook through them . I have always used a trailer just because everyone else does.  

When the line goes slack on a bite i hold the rod pointing to the left or right, tighten it up a little, and then set the hook into a new dimension on an angle.

I only ever side swipe with circle hooks