endless Posted April 4, 2015 Posted April 4, 2015 It took a good 2 months with all the suppliers ordering issues from my 1:7 twist barrel blank, magpul, nickel barron bolt carrier but H&S Tactical was finally able to finish it. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 4, 2015 Super User Posted April 4, 2015 Looks good, but I caution you...that polymer magpul mbus front sight WILL MELT installed on the gas block like you have it. They are meant for handguard install. Magpul makes the metal MBUS Pro Series that can be mounted to the gas block...but it's more $$$ Quote
MDBowHunter Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Looks decent, but I'm going to say the same thing that WW2farmer said. If it was mine I'd ditch the whole hand guard and get a free float tube, cause that sight will melt to the gas block if you run that thing like I would. If this is something that H&S tactical did, I'd be a little suspect about all their work. A polymer sight on a gas block should be a no no in any gunsmiths book. Also just FYI them NIB BCGs aren't what some guys make them out to be. I run either BCM, Colt or Noveske BCGs only. If you clean your gun after every session you shouldnt realy have a problem. Good luck with it, have you had it to the range yet??? Quote
DirtyDeuceGoose Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Is that front MBUS mounted backwards too? 1 Quote
endless Posted April 5, 2015 Author Posted April 5, 2015 Yes. As of right now only way to flatten it out. He said it doesn't far as sighting go but I don't like it that way myself personally. I've been online looking at gas block risers. Do y'all think even with a riser the sight still melt? I seen photos where others have it the same way mounted backwards on their gas block. Quote
endless Posted April 5, 2015 Author Posted April 5, 2015 Looks decent, but I'm going to say the same thing that WW2farmer said. If it was mine I'd ditch the whole hand guard and get a free float tube, cause that sight will melt to the gas block if you run that thing like I would. If this is something that H&S tactical did, I'd be a little suspect about all their work. A polymer sight on a gas block should be a no no in any gunsmiths book. Also just FYI them NIB BCGs aren't what some guys make them out to be. I run either BCM, Colt or Noveske BCGs only. If you clean your gun after every session you shouldnt realy have a problem. Good luck with it, have you had it to the range yet??? A free float is something I'm after and I'm still new to AR so I only knew the standard guard and magpul. I've been online searching at some. we was going to change my order to a free float but I wasn't sure on what I wanted brand. I'm trying to find one around or less than $100 and not a four sided rail. I also want a longer rail I came across one brand a while back but can't remember their name. It was recommended by one of those AR forum sites. Far as if is something H&S always do I'm not sure and wouldn't think so. These guys are serious about their products. 1 is a wounded veteran. I chose the NIB from the videos I watched. I haven't gotten the chance to go out yet. I just picked it up yesterday. I wanted to check SSG tactical on some accessories for the AR but they're closed today. Their pricey though. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 6, 2015 Super User Posted April 6, 2015 Yes. As of right now only way to flatten it out. He said it doesn't far as sighting go but I don't like it that way myself personally. I've been online looking at gas block risers. Do y'all think even with a riser the sight still melt? I seen photos where others have it the same way mounted backwards on their gas block.I Let's talk about sight plane first. I can't tell from your pictures, but is that a receiver height railed gas block? or a Low profile railed block? If it is receiver height, putting the front sight on a riser will make the sight too high to co witness with the rear sight, if it's not, than you need A.) a riser anyways, because the sight is too low to properly line up with the rear sight, or B.) a metal front sight that will bolt on to the block you have that is longer/taller to line up with the rear sight. I am not inferring that the MBUS polymer front sight will melt into a pile of goo on a gas block after the first round is fired, but Magpul states in there instructions to NOT USE THEM on railed gas blocks. Some guys do and get away with it, some don't. I'll also agree with MDBowHunter, if that came from a shop that builds AR's, I wouldn't let them even look at anything of mine. They should know better. Quote
endless Posted April 6, 2015 Author Posted April 6, 2015 Their definitely not the same height. Now far ad melting goes is this for semi auto as well?? I went to another tactical that sells accessories in their store but they didn't have any risers or metal flip up sights. Just the A2 and for other polymer sights. They said they never heard of any MBus melting on the gas block but I have read from the magpul sight on what yall was saying. I even read some AR forums on it as well. What are some cool accessories I can look in to?? Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 6, 2015 Super User Posted April 6, 2015 Their definitely not the same height. Now far ad melting goes is this for semi auto as well?? I went to another tactical that sells accessories in their store but they didn't have any risers or metal flip up sights. Just the A2 and for other polymer sights. They said they never heard of any MBus melting on the gas block but I have read from the magpul sight on what yall was saying. I even read some AR forums on it as well. What are some cool accessories I can look in to?? If they are not the same height, that's just plain not set up right. Those sights need to be on the same plane. If you want to tempt fate and run the polymer sight on the gas block, check out Yankee Hill, Troy, or Midwest industries. They all sell risers, and metal flip up sights meant for gas block attachment. I know how hot these things can get, and I just wouldn't trust a polymer sight on the block, esp. since Magpul says not to do it. Accessories...............ask 100 AR fans and you'll get 100 different answers. Get in where you fit in, and build what you like. Like my bass fishing, I do these things on a tight budget, I put my $$ in the things that are important to reliable function(BCG, barrel, buffers, springs, and mags) and looks for deals on uppers/lowers. For furniture, I like Magpul stuff myself, it's not expensive, available everywhere, and is rugged enough for my uses. Not a fan of optics, personally, at least scopes and anything with magnification I have a couple red dots, but they are just plinker grade stuff. For what I do (plink, and goof off) I'm just as happy with my Del-Ton and PSA uppers, as I would be with a $$$ tack driver or go to war AR. Mine go bang every time I pull the trigger with any kind of ammo I feed it, and put the bullet where I am pointing. Go over to AR15.com or M4.com and visit those forums, AR snobs will make fishing gear snobs look mild. Quote
endless Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 I was just online looking at Diamondhead rails. I like this one just figure out wieght. http://www.diamondhead-usa.com/collections/5-56-handguards-accessories/products/vrs-x-556-free-floating-handguards I just wonder if it is hard to install?? And hard is to replace to gas block with a low profile one? Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted April 7, 2015 Super User Posted April 7, 2015 This rail doesn't take any special tools to install but you would need a barrel wrench to remove your barrel. 1 Quote
endless Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 I ditched the magpul rail for a free float today. I went with the Leapers UTG Pro keymod in 15". Thanks to MDBOWHUNTER! He talked me into keymod. http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?itemno=MTU019SSK I also had to replace the has block with the low pro Yankie Hill. Quote
MDBowHunter Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Much much nicer, and I'm sure you like it better also... Quote
endless Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 I can't tell a difference lol. I will say the rail rated at 12oz but the packaged weighed more than the rail itself. I would of thought for something close to a pound you would notice it? But I do like it. Quote
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