Ned Rig

[fishangdood]

I've just started to read into the history of the ned rig. So from what I've read, it's pretty much a shortened senko or senko like bait on a 1/16 jighead with an oversized hook. Asside from an exposed hook, is the trick behind it the position of the eyelet?

Also would setting it up with a scrounger jig be counterintuitive? I was thinking about busting out 4 ned rigs for this weekend. 2 normal jigheads and two scroungers with two trick worms and two senkos.

[Team9nine]

I've just started to read into the history of the ned rig. So from what I've read, it's pretty much a shortened senko or senko like bait on a 1/16 jighead with an oversized hook. Asside from an exposed hook, is the trick behind it the position of the eyelet?

Also would setting it up with a scrounger jig be counterintuitive? I was thinking about busting out 4 ned rigs for this weekend. 2 normal jigheads and two scroungers with two trick worms and two senkos.

 

....Not quite. Tried pulling it up in a search function to give you links, but came up empty for some reason. It has been discussed a few times on here before. If you really stick to what Ned recommends, then you need to try and use mostly Z-Man plastics, including the half ZinkerZ (or now the TRD), or possibly the half Strike King Ocho. Any other plastic isn't the same, though they do sometimes go with regular plastics if Z-Man doesn't have a particular shape they like. Also, use with a mushroom jighead, mostly 1/16-oz. but sometimes 1/32 (more frequently) or 3/32nd (less frequently). And the hook isn't oversized, but rather undersized. Ned keeps 'em small around a #4 (1/16-oz) or #6 (1/32-oz). Some guys prefer going slightly larger up to a #2 or #1, or even larger. If there is a "trick" behind it other than the Z-Man plastic, I'd say it is the "no feel" retrieve with shorter casts.

 

This is the basic setup Ned throws the majority of the time. Beyond that, others have started improvising on the system for specific situations or preferences including larger hooks, weedless heads, heavier heads, etc. My personal recommendation is if you're new to the system, to always start with exactly what Ned suggests and uses so you can get an honest feel for what "baseline" truly is with this technique. After that, then you can alter components as you will have that (original system) for comparison, and know how your alteration affects the original presentation. The more you read, the more you'll see Ned rarely ever deviates.

 

-T9

[Choporoz]

....Not quite. Tried pulling it up in a search function to give you links, but came up empty for some reason.

 

BR Search hates 3-letter words...but it doesn't tell you for some reason

[aceman387]

This video is pretty helpful.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqGTzPt6TIQ

[fishangdood]

This video is pretty helpful.

Thanks for the link. When he busted out the tube bait I thought, "I was doing it but didn't know it yet."

[Bluebasser86]

....Not quite. Tried pulling it up in a search function to give you links, but came up empty for some reason. It has been discussed a few times on here before. If you really stick to what Ned recommends, then you need to try and use mostly Z-Man plastics, including the half ZinkerZ (or now the TRD), or possibly the half Strike King Ocho. Any other plastic isn't the same, though they do sometimes go with regular plastics if Z-Man doesn't have a particular shape they like. Also, use with a mushroom jighead, mostly 1/16-oz. but sometimes 1/32 (more frequently) or 3/32nd (less frequently). And the hook isn't oversized, but rather undersized. Ned keeps 'em small around a #4 (1/16-oz) or #6 (1/32-oz). Some guys prefer going slightly larger up to a #2 or #1, or even larger. If there is a "trick" behind it other than the Z-Man plastic, I'd say it is the "no feel" retrieve with shorter casts.

 

This is the basic setup Ned throws the majority of the time. Beyond that, others have started improvising on the system for specific situations or preferences including larger hooks, weedless heads, heavier heads, etc. My personal recommendation is if you're new to the system, to always start with exactly what Ned suggests and uses so you can get an honest feel for what "baseline" truly is with this technique. After that, then you can alter components as you will have that (original system) for comparison, and know how your alteration affects the original presentation. The more you read, the more you'll see Ned rarely ever deviates.

 

-T9

The Ned rig is pretty much everything a typical bass fisherman is against. It's a light bait, doesn't do much, you're not supposed to feel it, the hook is small, the list goes on. The main thing that it does is catch fish, period. If you happen to be around smallmouth then it's really going to shine as they seem to not be able to control themselves around it. Oddly enough, as simple as it seems, it's a technique that really takes some time to master though. 

[eyedabassman]

The Ned rig is pretty much everything a typical bass fisherman is against. It's a light bait, doesn't do much, you're not supposed to feel it, the hook is small, the list goes on. The main thing that it does is catch fish, period. If you happen to be around smallmouth then it's really going to shine as they seem to not be able to control themselves around it. Oddly enough, as simple as it seems, it's a technique that really takes some time to master though. 

X-2 That little rig will catch fish like crazy!! Alot of small bass buy once in a whaile a big-in comes along! It is just a fun way to fish period! 

[chelboed]

Necropost here...(to some degree)

 

 

I know the recommended rig to fish the Ned is a spinning rig with 6'ish lbs line...but how about some of these swanky finnesse baitcasters like a Liberto Pixy on a ML fast rod? Right now I'm casting some fairly small lures 1/8 & 1/16oz beetlespin, small trout spoons, etc... with my BPS CrappieMaxx Mighty Lite baitcaster on a ML rod. I'm willing to splurge on a used Pixy if it will accurately handle a Ned.

 

 

Thoughts?

[OTR366]

Glenn has a video here on BR that I found well done and very informative.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/ned-rig.html

[Bluebasser86]

Necropost here...(to some degree)

 

 

I know the recommended rig to fish the Ned is a spinning rig with 6'ish lbs line...but how about some of these swanky finnesse baitcasters like a Liberto Pixy on a ML fast rod? Right now I'm casting some fairly small lures 1/8 & 1/16oz beetlespin, small trout spoons, etc... with my BPS CrappieMaxx Mighty Lite baitcaster on a ML rod. I'm willing to splurge on a used Pixy if it will accurately handle a Ned.

 

 

Thoughts?

It will probably do it, but I wouldn't want to fish one with a casting rod. Main reason is I hold a casting rod in my left hand and I can't control my left hand well enough to impart the subtle action on the bait like I can with my right hand (spinning gear). 

[Drew03cmc]

It will probably do it, but I wouldn't want to fish one with a casting rod. Main reason is I hold a casting rod in my left hand and I can't control my left hand well enough to impart the subtle action on the bait like I can with my right hand (spinning gear).

These are my thoghts as well.

[RangerDanger]

Necropost here...(to some degree)

 

 

I know the recommended rig to fish the Ned is a spinning rig with 6'ish lbs line...but how about some of these swanky finnesse baitcasters like a Liberto Pixy on a ML fast rod? Right now I'm casting some fairly small lures 1/8 & 1/16oz beetlespin, small trout spoons, etc... with my BPS CrappieMaxx Mighty Lite baitcaster on a ML rod. I'm willing to splurge on a used Pixy if it will accurately handle a Ned.

 

 

Thoughts?

The pixy on a MLXF rod will do it, I just recently did it.  It does have a totally different feel than fishing it on spinning gear.  I'll most likely keep using spinning gear for the ned the majority of the time.

[Cgolf]

Just to be contrary I am going to pick up some Z Man baits and give it a shot on the river, but go with a heavy jig head. Picked up a Smallie on an imitation rig but snagged up to much on the rocks in the current. My thought is the bouyant Z Man baits would hopefully keep the bait bumping the rocks but not snagging. Will go lighter head on the lake.

Now I just need to find the Z Man baits locally so I can give it a whirl.

[corn-on-the-rob]

psshh, just order them online! 

[Bluebasser86]

Just to be contrary I am going to pick up some Z Man baits and give it a shot on the river, but go with a heavy jig head. Picked up a Smallie on an imitation rig but snagged up to much on the rocks in the current. My thought is the bouyant Z Man baits would hopefully keep the bait bumping the rocks but not snagging. Will go lighter head on the lake.

Now I just need to find the Z Man baits locally so I can give it a whirl.

If you're going to fish a heavy head and open hook in moving water, I'd be prepared to be snagged a lot. If you fish them on a light head, count down how long it takes to hit bottom. After you know, start moving the bait right before it should hit bottom so it slowly scoots along right above the bottom. It greatly decreases the number of snags and catches lots of fish still. 

[Cgolf]

If you're going to fish a heavy head and open hook in moving water, I'd be prepared to be snagged a lot. If you fish them on a light head, count down how long it takes to hit bottom. After you know, start moving the bait right before it should hit bottom so it slowly scoots along right above the bottom. It greatly decreases the number of snags and catches lots of fish still.

I fish pretty heavy current and the smallies hang in the seems and behind and I assume in front of the rocks. If I go to light it just gets swept away too quickly and to heavy snags instantly. My hope with the Z Man baits is that the bouancy will allow it to bounce along, but keep the jig head from wedging in. Many hits come after I pop a jig off a snag, just hoping this makes life easier. Lakes will be a light jig head, just not the river.

[Bluebasser86]

I fish pretty heavy current and the smallies hang in the seems and behind and I assume in front of the rocks. If I go to light it just gets swept away too quickly and to heavy snags instantly. My hope with the Z Man baits is that the bouancy will allow it to bounce along, but keep the jig head from wedging in. Many hits come after I pop a jig off a snag, just hoping this makes life easier. Lakes will be a light jig head, just not the river.

You just have to cast further upstream with the lighter rig and let it parachute down. If a craw falls off of a log in moving water, that's basically how it falls to the bottom unless it flips it's way down. It may take awhile to figure out the exact distance but it's deadly once you do. IMO, if you're going to fish a bait that is going to sink quickly to the bottom you might as well fish a shakyhead and save yourself the snags you get with an open hook.