mhilgtx Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 So my thoughts on the quality of the new equipment I have been exposed to over the past few months vs what was out there 30 years ago is this:  Even the least expensive baitcasting reels by Abu Garcia are much easier to use than the highest end equipment back in when I fished with my father. Basically all you had was a tension nob and thats it even the free spool buttons were on the side so if you had every thing backed off it was a two handed motion to start the cast. Learning to use a baitcaster back then took quite a bit of effort and time. That is just to not backlash anytime you made a cast, now you can almost tune my new Shimano Curado I to cast without any thumb control. Its not the most accurate way to do it and you have to be smooth but I played around with it and an an old Bantam. I think the Lews V Spool was one of the first reels that had any kind of breaking.  I am astounded with the smothness of even my Abu Black Max which is just about as cheap of a reel as you can get these days. I have always prefered Abu and Shimano reels. Probably the reel I am most disapointed with is my Diawa Lexa and that is is just because of its initial MSRP. I think a real at above $100 should have dual braking these days, maybe that is why TW and Gander Mountain have the reel on sale now for $69.99 which is what I paid.  The lines of today are shockingly sensative as are the rods, I have a $50.00 Shimano Clarus casting rod that is worth every penny of the original MSRP and I can feel so much sensation with it I am actually really confused about what I am feeling and spend more time working out whats what than actually fishing at this point. That is to me the allure of fishing for Bass learing and refining techniques.  I think by the time in a few months when I can cast my reels with the right settings and hit a paper cup with a jig from the other side of the world 95 out 100 times its going to be a blast.  Not sure if this post makes sense, I was just kind of thinking of all the differences from the last 30 years and they are as astounding in fishing as they are in comparing my old Apple desktop 30 years ago to my iPad today.  3
0119 Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Â Whatever floats your boat. Â I think todays reels are all garbage. Â Rods, even worse..... 1
Super User WIGuide Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 Things have definitely come a long way even in my lifetime. What's crazy is to think about where it'll be in another 30 years. I'm sure if he's around in another 30 years 0119 will be out in a field still kissing cows... 4
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 Daiwa isn't a company that offers reels with dual braking. They have probably the best magnetic brake system. That's what they're known for. Magforce Z V 3D. Though the Lexa only had standard magforce brakes on it. 1
jtesch Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 15 years ago the Daiwa tournament ss was a top of the line spinning reel and if you use it now it's like holding a mixer. Still a tank of a reel but that spool oscillation thing will drive you nuts
jtesch Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Whatever floats your boat. I think todays reels are all garbage. Rods, even worse.....Really? I 2
Super User *Hootie Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 Ignore ignorant ignorance. Hootie 7
thehooligan Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Whatever floats your boat. I think todays reels are all garbage. Rods, even worse..... Wow 4
thehooligan Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 The 2000-2012 range put the absolute best reels out there.The curado e, core, Aldebaran, conquest, Antares, metanium, chronarch d, tdz, alphas, steez, pixy, Sol, fuego, zillion... I could go on and on, absolute best time period for fishing reels. And for rods, were getting the absolute best right now !! Shimano/Jackall, 13, phenix, megabass, the rod offerings are amazing right now. 3
mhilgtx Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Â Whatever floats your boat. Â I think todays reels are all garbage. Â Rods, even worse..... That's a pretty general statement and even might be true comparing ten years ago. I doubt it though, but hey maybe you like the way paint used to fall off our trucks before robots started painting them with electrostatic charged particles that leave almost zero orange peel effect too. Heck 30 years ago the understanding of how light the formulation of these modern day resigns (sp) was almost non existent. Go check out some of the stuff they are doing with carbon fiber in F1 or the fact that we have street cars with carbon fiber wheels. Think of the strength and forces that wheel goes through. Then you have c n c machines laser cutting cfd or computational fluid dynamics along with a type of 3d printing using silica and a laser are used in designing and making reel rods lures and lines today. Check out this to see some cool stuff http://www.infiniti-redbullracing.com/video/how-make-f1-car-design-and-rd-part-1 2
Super User F14A-B Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 Gettin hot in here now! Lol..
mhilgtx Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 Daiwa isn't a company that offers reels with dual braking. They have probably the best magnetic brake system. That's what they're known for. Magforce Z V 3D. Though the Lexa only had standard magforce brakes on it. Thanks for the information and that makes since because I can't understand half the stuff on these reels yet. However I have an addictive personality and a little bit nerdy. For instance I see a ton of people that like the black *** rods and *** makes a big deal about the Toray Graphite being from Japan. So I checked into Toray and they have a huge facility here in the states and I have them sending a bunch of info and stuff to my office.
Super User *Hootie Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 I don't like to admit it, but stupid people scare me. Hootie 11
John G Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Whatever floats your boat. I think todays reels are all garbage. Rods, even worse.....Do you have a huge stash of 30 year old lures or are you using modern day lures or new lures that are old designs? I don't think that even you believe this bs. If you do, you are missing out on some really nice gear! 2
mhilgtx Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 Do you have a huge stash of 30 year old lures or are you using modern day lures or new lures that are old designs? I don't think that even you believe this bs. If you do, you are missing out on some really nice gear! I was thinking I found a buyer for my Shakespeare Boron spinning rod. 1
BasshunterJGH Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 The 2000-2012 range put the absolute best reels out there.The curado e, core, Aldebaran, conquest, Antares, metanium, chronarch d, tdz, alphas, steez, pixy, Sol, fuego, zillion... I could go on and on, absolute best time period for fishing reels. And for rods, were getting the absolute best right now !! Shimano/Jackall, 13, phenix, megabass, the rod offerings are amazing right now. I agree with you on this one. 2000-2012 was the golden age of reels, from the curado e to the steez. And rods are getting better and better, the shimano/jackall offerings are of particular interest to me now. 1
Cgrinder Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 The 2000-2012 range put the absolute best reels out there.The curado e, core, Aldebaran, conquest, Antares, metanium, chronarch d, tdz, alphas, steez, pixy, Sol, fuego, zillion... I could go on and on, absolute best time period for fishing reels. And for rods, were getting the absolute best right now !! Shimano/Jackall, 13, phenix, megabass, the rod offerings are amazing right now.  How many more Jackall rods before you're single? 4
0119 Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Ok so let me get this right.... all you shimano worshippers have a entitled right to proclaim your shimano love 25 hours a day. Â Defensively any thought other than your own is ignorance? Â Right, thats why I served, to defend your rights to entitled arrogance and my ignorance. Â Nothing on this forum has ever proven my claims that there are so many "internet experts". Â I'm ignorant because I don't like what you all likeand don't use what you all use. Â You are as a whole the largest group of defensive and arrogant man boys the angling world has ever seen. Â Don't worry Francho, you don't need to add another warning point to my doesnt play well with others tag.
Cgrinder Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Ok so let me get this right.... all you shimano worshippers have a entitled right to proclaim your shimano love 25 hours a day. Â Defensively any thought other than your own is ignorance? Â Right, thats why I served, to defend your rights to entitled arrogance and my ignorance. Â Nothing on this forum has ever proven my claims that there are so many "internet experts". Â I'm ignorant because I don't like what you all likeand don't use what you all use. Â You are as a whole the largest group of defensive and arrogant man boys the angling world has ever seen. Â Don't worry Francho, you don't need to add another warning point to my doesnt play well with others tag. Â Bit of a leap. Many of us are Daiwa worshippers. You called modern rods and reels garbage. People disagreed. I'm not sure what the problem is. 1
John G Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 You served! So did I! Your service or mine, in regards to the First Amendment, doesn't mean jack on an Internet forum. You posted something really stupid and you are being called out on it. Like they say....if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! 4
Grantman83 Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 And the countdown begins. People disagreed with you just like you disagreed with them. To call us defensive because of a disagreement is to me a truer act of defensiveness. The OP provided an opinion with reasons for his points. Your response came off merely as retaliatory. To then use military service as a "get out of jail free" card comes off as holier than thou. If anything, you should understand that you served to protect the ability to have very disagreement which you are now bashing others for. Rant over. 2
Super User F14A-B Posted March 27, 2015 Super User Posted March 27, 2015 I served a decade.. I'm a Shimano fan!! And Daiwa too.. So what.. Saltwater guys trashing out freshwater guys.. I don't get it.. 1
BadBassWV Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 I for one am proud to be a member of the Largest group Of defensive and arrogant men the angling world has ever seen. You Sir on the other hand are...uh...........................never mind it aint worth it. 1
mhilgtx Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Ok so let me get this right.... all you shimano worshippers have a entitled right to proclaim your shimano love 25 hours a day. Â Defensively any thought other than your own is ignorance? Â Right, thats why I served, to defend your rights to entitled arrogance and my ignorance. Â Nothing on this forum has ever proven my claims that there are so many "internet experts". Â I'm ignorant because I don't like what you all likeand don't use what you all use. Â You are as a whole the largest group of defensive and arrogant man boys the angling world has ever seen. Â Don't worry Francho, you don't need to add another warning point to my doesnt play well with others tag. Actually I thought it was just friendly banter, I took no offense. I think your position is unsupportable and I think we all have a tendency to think things were better back in the day. 1
SenkoGuru Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 WoW, A thread may get locked that I was not a part of.....I can't have that so I will just say....um,......Hi. Â Â Â EDIT...................Dobyn's still suck's. 3
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