bootytrain Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Z2020 isn't for everyone and less applications. It's just too bulky and I believe it's discontinued as well. I don't know why they got rid of their best braking system. Did cost to much to make? Hard to believe that. Its still available in Japan. 3D should not be expensive to make as it wasn't really very complicated. Its just an adjustment to move the outer magnet ring closer or farther to the inductor. Quote
reason162 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I love the "moving parts" argument. It already moved!. All it does is twist backward when the spool is disengaged. I wonder if there were this many complaints when they moved from a lever on the frame to a thumbar? Or when they went to disengaging levelwinds - that extra idler gear will get you! Aside from some claims of worn out T-wing guides - of which not one picture of proof has been provided - they have the same track record as any other reels on the market. Some guys post negatively about them, others love them. As for the guts on the Daiwas...those are the same basic design on a cheap Procaster from 15 years ago to the last JDM Steez everyone loves. The newest reels vary only in the T-wing models. Think I'm kidding or exagerrating? open one up. Same goes for EVERY OTHER brand of reel. Much of the percieved quality has to do with frame components' material, fit and finish, and construction, as well as the gear set. There's huge differences in quality of frames, gears, and sideplates, but for the most part, the rest of the guts are the same old stuff. The tone of your response points to an ongoing discourse re TWS I wasn't aware of. After spending some time on google and various other fishing forums, I am now better informed, so thank you. Just took out the spool on my Tatula R and looked at the back of the T wing: 2 grooves appear. After cleaning the area with rubbing alcohol on a qtip, they seem to be merely residue from new pp super slick, thank god. Fact remains that there is no discernible reason why the back of the T Wing needs to rub against the line upon retrieve. You said there's "not one picture of proof" on the TWS wearing out; if you're speaking of the grooving issue, there are dozens and dozens of examples provided in forums. Anyway, I agree with the rest of your post, and I do think my Tatula R is a quality reel. I don't like the TWS for reasons already mentioned. I wish I can buy the reel w/o the TWS tbh. Quote
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