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On some Virginia lakes and tidal rivers the black with red flake works best.


 


We also use more Junebug in these parts than black with blue flake.


 


Had some success with the black with red flake for plastics but nothing exciting with black with blue flake other than using this color for jig trailers. Seems to work great when fishing a black and blue jig.


 


So for us guys in Virginia we use black with red flake for plastics excepting the black with blue flake craw trailers for black and blue jigs.


  • Super User
Posted

Red is the first color to turn black in water,

Blue is the fifth.

ROYGBIV, Find your depth, find your color.

Another one who says bass will not bite black neon in deep water!

Y'all really need to tell the bass cause they aint listening!

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Not sayin they wont bite it. They just wont see it as red. Its a fact not opinion.

 

At 25' everything it black anyway in most stained water

  • Super User
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Not sayin they wont bite it. They just wont see it as red. Its a fact not opinion.

At 25' everything it black anyway in most stained water

First you & anyone else can not say what a bass sees; only what we see!

Second the bass will bite it so who cares what we see red as!

Y'all act like scientist know what bass think, see, & can learn!

They don't!

It's all a guess, an educated guess but still a guess!

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Personally I have both.

Why do I have both?

Because they are pretty colors and I like to switch baits every now and then. I have this pit boss in molted craw like a white blue and I'm super exited to use that.

  • Super User
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Normally it doesn't matter but when I'm fishing river smallmouth it can, and often does, make a huge difference, especially when the water is low. I know a lot will laugh but when we head out we have tubes in straight black, and black neon which is black with red flake.  Black with blue flake doesn't seem to make any difference, if they are hitting black, they hit black with blue flake but they may not hit a black neon, that color is either on or off. If the black neon is on, you won't get a bite on a straight black bait, I proved that to a few people who didn't believe it. For our lakes that have smallmouth in them it is different, it doesn't seem to make too much of a difference,  but I'm guessing because the water is so much clearer in the river that the smallmouth feed based on sight more, so they react to color more than fish in more stained conditions. So unless you are fishing extremely clear water for smallmouth, I wouldn't think the difference in flakes is going to matter too much.

 

Where did you get straight black tubes?

 

Allen

  • Super User
Posted

Where did you get straight black tubes?

 

Allen

 

River Rock Baits, best tubes I ever used , period!

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My 2 cents: I read somewhere that crawfish and other little critters shift color seasonally... for example: a crawfish in the summer and fall is going to be hanging around grass and veggies and will have more red and orange tints, where as in the colder water it will shift to a more blue/green color.

Coincidentally, I have done well with anything that has a red flake (variable water depth) in summer and fall. But in spring I almost always throw junebug or blk w/ blue flake.

Perhaps it is a coincidence, perhaps not. But I have found what works for me and I keep both colors around just in case. Just stocked up on junebug senkos for the next month.

 

***Fished both colors of the same bait today on a rage rig. BLK blu flake caught fish and watermelon red flake did not. Staying true to my experience ^^^

coincidence? who knows haha

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