Super User ChrisD46 Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 The above color choices have always confused me as to when you select one over the other ? What conditions or elements determines your selection criteria as to using one over the other ? Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 I think black and blue flake is prettier so I use that. 5 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 Red flake has worked better for me. Allen Quote
The Next KVD Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Its all personal preference. Those colors are going to be used in the same circumstances which is usually off colored water or worse. I don't think it matters as I have thrown both with good results. The icing on the cake for me was one day I ran out of some black with blue flk tubes and the closest thing I had was black w/ red flk. and continued to pound the fish. I now really only carry one of those colors now after that experience. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 I would rather black with a blue tail or claws over black with blue flack. But I would rather black neon (flake) over black with a red tail or claws. 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 Whichever bait I happen to grab first or have with me. If the bass are so smart that they'll reject my bait over flake color, I'd rather move along and find stupider fish Better than trying to rotate through a dozen flake colors to figure out the right one to get bit. If I'm not getting bit, for all I know it might be because the fish simply aren't there - may have nothing to do with flake color -T9 2 Quote
Brian-S Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Typically use Black and Blue... but maybe just by popularity.. no rhyme or reason LOL. Now, I love Black and Blue Laminate!! Try both when one is working and try to see which you have more confidence in Brian Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 Sometimes you feel like a nut ... 2 Quote
Arv Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I would select based on which is cheaper. I'd have a hard time feeling like it really makes that much of a difference 99%of the time 1 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 Sometimes you don't ... 1 Quote
Big C Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know what these guys are talking about. There is a HUGE difference between the two. Blk/blue is strictly for stained water (visibility about a foot). Blk/red is used only for slightly muddy water (visiblity no deeper than a ruler). 2 Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Fish see red better in shallow water. Blue better in deeper water. So water depth is how I would choose. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 Fish see red better in shallow water. Blue better in deeper water. So water depth is how I would choose. So will not bite black neon in deep water? And bass will not bite black-n-blue in shallow water? Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know what these guys are talking about. There is a HUGE difference between the two. Blk/blue is strictly for stained water (visibility about a foot). Blk/red is used only for slightly muddy water (visiblity no deeper than a ruler). HaHaHa!! 1 Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 If you want to be precise on color choice...go with the color that resembles local craws. Some craws are dark black or dark brown with blue highlights or red highlights. Clearer the water the more I try to match. Otherwise I pick my favorite jig (sometimes red sometimes blue) and a matching trailer, Quote
PersicoTrotaVA Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 When it's sunny I usually use the black/red and when it's cloudy, I go with the black/blue. When I'm really feeling freaky I will fish black/blue in the sun and black/red under the clouds. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 So will not bite black neon in deep water? And bass will not bite black-n-blue in shallow water? Personally I could care less about color and I think the bass do too. Techically I am repeating what scientist say. They say red is first to lose its color as water deepens. Blue is near the last. So if you want fish to see your red bait as red then fish it more shallow. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 It's a choice of what works at that time? Black with red flake brushogs work for me the bass love'm. It's either the black with red flake brushogs. The Amber/orange/red colored with gold flake senkos. The electric blue color with silver flake senkos. I can't argue with what color they like, it works. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 Personally I could care less about color and I think the bass do too. Techically I am repeating what scientist say. They say red is first to lose its color as water deepens. Blue is near the last. So if you want fish to see your red bait as red then fish it more shallow. Technically speaking ya listening to thr wrong group! The first research conducted on color visibility at different depths was conducted by the USN; thr research had nothing to do with bass. The observed results were as seen through human eyes and a human mind. Tell me how does a bass find my black neon worm, craw worm, lizard, creature, or jig sitting perfectly still on the bottom in 25' of water on a moonless night? Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 Here's how I do it -- don't buy colors that are so similar I've simplified my fishing especially with plastics by limiting my colors to some version of GP, some version of watermelon, junebug and some version of black. This makes my choice on the water a lot easier. 1 Quote
PersicoTrotaVA Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Technically speaking ya listening to thr wrong group! The first research conducted on color visibility at different depths was conducted by the USN; thr research had nothing to do with bass. The observed results were as seen through human eyes and a human mind. Tell me how does a bass find my black neon worm, craw worm, lizard, creature, or jig sitting perfectly still on the bottom in 25' of water on a moonless night? I'd listen to this man. I kept saltwater aquariums for 15 years and I did a lot of research on light and how its visible in water. One trick I have learned is that when a color is reflected off the surface it usually doesn't penetrate deep enough to be visible. I would suggest using that color and see what happens. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted March 24, 2015 Super User Posted March 24, 2015 Normally it doesn't matter but when I'm fishing river smallmouth it can, and often does, make a huge difference, especially when the water is low. I know a lot will laugh but when we head out we have tubes in straight black, and black neon which is black with red flake. Black with blue flake doesn't seem to make any difference, if they are hitting black, they hit black with blue flake but they may not hit a black neon, that color is either on or off. If the black neon is on, you won't get a bite on a straight black bait, I proved that to a few people who didn't believe it. For our lakes that have smallmouth in them it is different, it doesn't seem to make too much of a difference, but I'm guessing because the water is so much clearer in the river that the smallmouth feed based on sight more, so they react to color more than fish in more stained conditions. So unless you are fishing extremely clear water for smallmouth, I wouldn't think the difference in flakes is going to matter too much. 2 Quote
Big C Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 "Match the Hatch" can also play a role. If all the black worms in your lake have blue sparkles use blue flake, if not go with red. Quote
RanndomUndead Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 So will not bite black neon in deep water? And bass will not bite black-n-blue in shallow water? Red is the first color to turn black in water, Blue is the fifth. ROYGBIV, Find your depth, find your color. Quote
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