Hollada Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Just spooled up a new Curado I hg with 30lb PP super slick. Put it on the same rod as Curado e series and used the same casting weight for comparison. The E had 65 lb regular PP. Two brakes on on each. Curado I dialed down to 1 on external brake. The e is 10 or so yards longer consistently than the I. I bought the I used off of the flea market here. The guy I bought it from said he had just serviced the bearings. Besides re cleaning the bearings, any suggestions? I thought the I would be at least as long if not longer than the E??? Anyone else have experience with both that you can share? Very disappointed right now in the I. I've got a 6:3 I to spool tomorrow with fluoro. Hopefully it's not the same issue. Dan Quote
Crappiebasser Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Turn another brake off. I have used I's for a year now and never need more than 1 brake. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted March 21, 2015 Super User Posted March 21, 2015 The Curado I is brand new. The E is not. Give it a half to full season to break in an compare them again. Hands down my 4 year old E will outcast my brand new I. In a year?...maybe, maybe not. Quote
BassingNick Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Yep, same experience here..my year old 50E feels so effortless casting compared to my new Curado I. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 The new Curados I've cleaned were packed with grease including the bearings. Once equally setup and adjusted I suspect you'll see more parity between the two reels. 2 Quote
mhilgtx Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 The Curado I is brand new. The E is not. Give it a half to full season to break in an compare them again. Hands down my 4 year old E will outcast my brand new I. In a year?...maybe, maybe not. Interesting about the break in, I just got an I yesterday and I must say I am very impressed with it so far. Look forward to figuring out if is worth the extra $$ over my Lexa since I would like to try out a low gear ratio real for my next purchase. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 21, 2015 Super User Posted March 21, 2015 My "I" series reels cast as good if not better than the "e" reels that I sold. As far as break in, it's been my experience that most reels improve somewhat with use. Both are solid reels.. 2 Quote
HookdUP Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 My Is and scorpions which are basically the same thing all cast better than my Es or Ds, but I love the old school feel of Ds and Es too much to ever let them go and they do everything I ask for ... I think your results would've been different if you bought your Curado new ... Quote
Hollada Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 The reel (the I i bought used) looks pristine. No dings or boat rash. What could be different in a new reel? Is there something I should look for that I could fix? Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 21, 2015 Super User Posted March 21, 2015 The reel (the I i bought used) looks pristine. No dings or boat rash. What could be different in a new reel? Is there something I should look for that I could fix? A little concern on the previous owner issue. Only because what did he do/not do.. Bearings? Idk.. I know the platform is solid, it's a excellent casting & retrieving reel.. How many brakes do you have set? ( internally ) Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted March 21, 2015 Super User Posted March 21, 2015 The e's have 6 brakes and I's only have 4. So having "2 brakes on" on both reels equates to more braking on the I than the e. 2 on on the e and 1 on on the I would both equate to a closer % of the brakes on. Also, older braid will cast better than new braid IMO. Try that and report back! Jeff 2 Quote
Hollada Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 I tried with all brakes off and got a nasty mess. Will pick it apart and try one brake tomorrow. I did try putting that spool in a brand new 6:3 I that I hadn't spooled yet. 2 brakes on that one and it cast fine. I think there is something funky with the bearings on the IHG. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted March 21, 2015 Super User Posted March 21, 2015 Degrease and flush the reel and bearings, re-oil with super fine oil. Try again. Quote
Joe Schmuckatelli Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Im disappointed too man it doesn't do to well with braid its done ok with a 3/8 jig but on lighter weights with braid I get a random backlash I don't understand it Quote
Poolshark Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 One brake on the curado I should be all you need. I don't feel much of a distance in casting between the curado I and chronarch e that I own. Quote
SenkoGuru Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Both of mine pretty much cast the same but I'm not as happy with the I as I am with the E series. I just like the E's much better. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 22, 2015 Super User Posted March 22, 2015 I've said this about the ci4 chronarch too, the braking system is too fineky vs the old tried and true E system. Quote
Poolshark Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Both of mine pretty much cast the same but I'm not as happy with the I as I am with the E series. I just like the E's much better. I agree. Quote
tnt2671 Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I've said this about the ci4 chronarch too, the braking system is too fineky vs the old tried and true E system. hmm I hear this quite a bit about the new braking system and i was skeptical at first but now i own several of both and they are both set it and forget it for me ( maybe a little on cast control knob) old style is 2 brakes on, cast control set w/ just a hair of spool end play on the newer style 2 brakes on dial between 1 and 2 and same on cast control. granted i don't throw any super light finesse stuff and i will say the newer style does require an occasional light oiling on the brake cone but besides that i actually like the micro adjustability option on the ci4+ newer style braking if you do need a minor tweak. what are you guys having issues with them being fineky? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 22, 2015 Super User Posted March 22, 2015 There is no issue. The E style was set-and-forget, no dialing in, no tuning for different types and weighted lures, it was simple and effective. I could simply throw a 1/8oz bare jig/grub, switch to a 1/2 jerkbait, and off to pitch a 3/8 jig with out brake adjustments. On the svs it's a chore compared to it. The SVS added more 'hoops' for adjustment. 1 Quote
Hollada Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 Cleaned the bearings and the reel. Works fine now. Will take a bit of dialing in to get it right. 2 Quote
Hollada Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 There is no issue. The E style was set-and-forget, no dialing in, no tuning for different types and weighted lures, it was simple and effective. I could simply throw a 1/8oz bare jig/grub, switch to a 1/2 jerkbait, and off to pitch a 3/8 jig with out brake adjustments. On the svs it's a chore compared to it. The SVS added more 'hoops' for adjustment. Exactly..... What he said Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 From what I can see just on the bench the I is different, but not leaps and bounds better than the E. Shimano got away from the Curado's traditional workhorse reel reputation with the E series. Their first attempt at returning balance to the Universe with a G was a debacle because they had spoiled people to some degree with the E. The I's X ship is a nice improvement but nothing innovative really. Daiwa has been using dual pinion bearings for a while. A nice simple centrifugal brake is hard to beat IMO. There was no need to mess with that except for giving the perception of innovation. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 From what I can see just on the bench the I is different, but not leaps and bounds better than the E. Shimano got away from the Curado's traditional workhorse reel reputation with the E series. Their first attempt at returning balance to the Universe with a G was a debacle because they had spoiled people to some degree with the E. The I's X ship is a nice improvement but nothing innovative really. Daiwa has been using dual pinion bearings for a while. A nice simple centrifugal brake is hard to beat IMO. There was no need to mess with that except for giving the perception of innovation. Many many people complained about lack of outside brake adjustment on shimano reels so they made it happen. They also gave the caster the ability use to less braking than what the vbs gives, what I wanted and can utilize. I think most just cant handle the extra speed and are spoiled, perhaps shamed by not being able to control the spool showing their overall lack of baitcasting thumb control abilities. The SVS spool can be set and forget just like the vbs. Mine is set on 1 brake and never changed from 1/8oz to 3/4oz cant be any simpler. I could almost guarantee people would be complaining if the new shimano reels left off this feature to adjust brakes externally. 2 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted March 23, 2015 Super User Posted March 23, 2015 Many many people complained about lack of outside brake adjustment on shimano reels so they made it happen. They also gave the caster the ability use to less braking than what the vbs gives, what I wanted and can utilize. I think most just cant handle the extra speed and are spoiled, perhaps shamed by not being able to control the spool showing their overall lack of baitcasting thumb control abilities. The SVS spool can be set and forget just like the vbs. Mine is set on 1 brake and never changed from 1/8oz to 3/4oz cant be any simpler. I could almost guarantee people would be complaining if the new shimano reels left off this feature to adjust brakes externally. Exactly.. Seems folks with the issues are new plug throwers that haven't learned reel setup.. I have 0 issues casting, retrieving or anything with the "I" series myself. It is a higher performance reel in the casting department and braking control dept. as well in my opinion.. 1 Quote
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