Robeng Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I am looking for 3 strand nylon rope to tie onto fluke anchor. Rope Diameter is 3/8 x 100-150 ft long. I really only need 100ft for 16 ft aluminum Lund. Fluke anchor is a Chene anchor. Made in Michigan---some like them-some dont. Thought I'd give it a try. I also have coated fluke anchors but in certain bottom conditions, the bow doesnt always hold well in strong wind. Thought maybe the Chene anchor (non-coated) would be better off the bow. Grab bottom better. Question is >>>What brand rope? (I dont want too soft of a rope, using the 3 strand nylon. Of course, must hold tie-off directly to anchor (no chain allowed as it is a slip ring type) AND splice well.) Any suggestions of specific brand rope? Thoughts on Chene Anchor and tie-off? See pictures. Thanks in advance. Much appreciated. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Unless you have better luck with that style than I did, I would suggest throwing it over the side with NO rope! The one I had was left sitting at the boat launch on Maple Bay, Burt Lake about five years ago. In 20' of water, it did a fantastic job of swimming, twirling, and finally skidding along the bottom, but not near enough weight to allow the flutes to dig in and hold. Same rope, now with a 15# regular fluted anchor w/chain does a much better job. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Braided rope! Easier on the hands! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Braided rope! Easier on the hands! Yup - either 3 strand nylon or double braid. Only need a small diameter. I use double braid and removed the "core" as the cover by itself is strong enough for my small boat needs. Also without the core it stores flat and dries faster. A-Jay Quote
Robeng Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 Thanks to Lund Explorer, Catt, and A-Jay. Much appreciated. Lund Explorer: I have heard similar opinions I the Chene anchor. Thank you again. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Yup - either 3 strand nylon or double braid. Only need a small diameter. I use double braid and removed the "core" as the cover by itself is strong enough for my small boat needs. Also without the core it stores flat and dries faster. A-Jay 3 Strand Nylon.jpg Double Braid.jpg Come on boats, the OP wanted to splice it. Think you should do a tutorial on splicing double braid. You know how easy that is with small diameter line. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Come on boats, the OP wanted to splice it. Think you should do a tutorial on splicing double braid. You know how easy that is with small diameter line. Double Braid's OK when it New & never been under strain but old, weathered & stretched is a B@#$% A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Double Braid's OK when it New & never been under strain but old, weathered & stretched is a B@#$% A-Jay When striking I was given an old 3" tow line, which I had to splice. BM2 Johnson and BM3 Gray thought it was hilarious watching their SNBM using hammers and a capstan to get the job done. I of course failed to see the humor. OP sorry for the hijack, resume thread. A jay gave great advice btw. 1 Quote
Al Wolbach Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Come on boats, the OP wanted to splice it. Think you should do a tutorial on splicing double braid. You know how easy that is with small diameter line. Only a shallow water sailor could answer a question about anchor line lol, no experience with chain guys? Just joking........Al 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Only a shallow water sailor could answer a question about anchor line lol, no experience with chain guys? Just joking........Al I've had my share Al ~ Thank you very much. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Only a shallow water sailor could answer a question about anchor line lol, no experience with chain guys? Just joking........Al Never been on a buoy tender have ya? Chain? Please, heat and beat shackles, splicing wire rope, running boats in hurricane conditions, commanding officer of vessels around 300 feet, C/O of duty stations (that navy guys tell me in the Navy would take a LtCmdr to be the commanding officer) , Coast Guard Boatswain Mates do it all. Never ever confuse us with a Navy bos'n, not the same. 1 Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Lund Explorer: I have heard similar opinions I the Chene anchor. Thank you again. The reason these anchors don't dig in on contact is they lack the weight and pivot point that an anchor's foot (forget the term) provides, they'll bounce around until the flukes hit right and then dig in. To avoid this let out only enough line for the anchor to make contact, plus a couple feet. This will lift the connection point up and force the flukes down. Once securely anchored, add slack so you won't accidentally pull free. That's the purpose of the chain, to provide weight keeping the lifting arm down after being securely anchored. Danforth anchors are much more reliable. Quote
Al Wolbach Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Never been on a buoy tender have ya? Chain? Please, heat and beat shackles, splicing wire rope, running boats in hurricane conditions, commanding officer of vessels around 300 feet, C/O of duty stations (that navy guys tell me in the Navy would take a LtCmdr to be the commanding officer) , Coast Guard Boatswain Mates do it all. Never ever confuse us with a Navy bos'n, not the same. I was a Torpedoman, not around a lot of Boatswain Mates of any branch. Did log about 100 hours flying with the Coast Guard in C130's and CH43's in the Pacific, island hopping and monitoring foreign fishing vessels. Also spent a few days on Kure Island, which is/was a Coast Guard Loran station in the pacific. The most isolated piece of ground I have ever been on. I have a great deal of respect for all branches of service, just couldn't pass a golden opportunity to harass and maybe share a smile.......Al Sorry OP for stealing the thread, I'll shut up now. 2 Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 I was a Torpedoman, not around a lot of Boatswain Mates of any branch. Did log about 100 hours flying with the Coast Guard in C130's and CH43's in the Pacific, island hopping and monitoring foreign fishing vessels. Also spent a few days on Kure Island, which is/was a Coast Guard Loran station in the pacific. The most isolated piece of ground I have ever been on. I have a great deal of respect for all branches of service, just couldn't pass a golden opportunity to harass and maybe share a smile.......Al Sorry OP for stealing the thread, I'll shut up now. All in good fun my man, BTW my uncle did 20 in the Navy, Cryptology, he is still a little squirrelly. To the OP my last post promise, back to anchor line. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted March 20, 2015 Super User Posted March 20, 2015 Thanks to Lund Explorer, Catt, and A-Jay. Much appreciated. Lund Explorer: I have heard similar opinions I the Chene anchor. Thank you again. Hey, they might work in shallow weedy conditions or on a really soft bottom, and the idea behind the free sliding ring might help retrieve the darn thing if it got snagged and you could pull it up from the back side. My experience on Burt Lake which has a hard bottom and can get some fairly big waves when the wind is blowing hard enough to need an anchor was that the thing just wouldn't dig in. If the reason you were considering one of these was for it's snag proof qualities, you may want to consider a chain style river anchor, or my favorite choice which is an old window weight. Both styles work well in a moderate wind. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 20, 2015 Super User Posted March 20, 2015 I use Tri-fluted River anchor, our bottoms are not extremly hard. I like 1/2" solid braided rope because while the bottom aint hard there is tons of grass, lots of brush, & a whole forrest of trees. Getting hung up is part of anchoring & the 1/2" rope is easier on the hands but then again losing 2-3 anchors a year is not uncommon. 1 Quote
Robeng Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 Thanks Lund Explorer- I appreciate your advice. Quote
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