Tying Braid Directly To Spool On Baitcaster??

[meade95]

When tying braid on to a new baitcaster. Can I tie direct to spool or do I need to use mono first??  Ive been seeing people using the spool holes (on newer baitcasters) and tying just through one of those to lock on the spool.

 

I'm getting some slippage (as I tied direct, but not through the holes provided on the spool reel).   Looking for advice.

 

Thanks!

[5fishlimit]

You can put some electricians tape around the spool beforehand.  This will give the braid something to grab onto, but most people use some mono backing so that they can use a spool of braid on multiple reels.

 

 

[HardcoreBassin]

You can put some electricians tape around the spool beforehand.  This will give the braid something to grab onto, but most people use some mono backing so that they can use a spool of braid on multiple reels.

 

X2.  If you use mono backing you'll be more cost efficient in spooling the braid.

 

- Dale

[Choporoz]

Certainly, backing is an option. 

But, I, like the OP, have wondered why you can't/shouldn't tie the braid using the holes in the spool. 

[Preytorien]

I use the electrical tape solution. That said, I don't even tie a knot since I can't remember the last time I ever actually spooled a reel while fighting a fish. It keeps the line lay a bit flatter

[meade95]

I've definitely felt some slippage (like drag not working) on two recent bigger bass.  I dumbly tied the braid right to the spool.  About 8 poles worth. So now I'm trying to figure out my choices.

 

Being able to tie to the holes in the new baitcasters spools seems like easiest solution (but is it best?? will it work).  WHy are the holes there?? if not for tying too?

 

If I use mono, how much mono is needed. Just a small layer around the bottom.  I need to also look up best knot to tie mono to braid with then.

 

Thanks for advice

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

I tie directly to spool with braid on my 50 size shimano reels. I dont use leaders so slowly work my way through the line. Once the braid gets low enough thats when Ill add mono backing to get the spool full again.

 

 You will be fine having tied directly to the spool.

[rippin-lips]

The holes are there to lighten the spool but you can tie the line through them and there won't be any issues. People do it all the time. Looks like you're going to have to tie your line to something and walk it off down to the spool. Tie through the holes and reel it all back on.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

You need something to keep the braid from slipping. Backing, tape or tying to the wiffle spool will all work. There's no mechanical reason I can think of to not tie to the spool, but something about it, I just don't like the idea. I use backing myself as I can't see loading a reel full of braid that will never see the light of day.  

[Alpha Male]

All of the above solutions work.  Like you I found out the hard way that braid slips on the spool sometimes.  You can tie through the holes, I do on some reels, or use backing, or even the tape.

 

For me it depends on the line capacity of the reel as to which solution I use.  I most reels that hold 120 yards of 12lb mono I usually tie directly to the spool and with 30lb braid can put on about 140 yards.  that way after a year or re-tieing I will take the braid off and add some backing to fill the spool up.  if it has a larger spool then I just do the best I can to put 100 yards of braid on so that one spool get me 3 reels worth.

[Alpha Male]

The holes are there to lighten the spool but you can tie the line through them and there won't be any issues. People do it all the time. Looks like you're going to have to tie your line to something and walk it off down to the spool. Tie through the holes and reel it all back on.

 

 

I prefer to spool it to another reel and the tighten the tension knob when re-spooling the original reel to prevent backlashes.

[meade95]

So if I plan to use only braid and respool every year. I could us the black electrician tape way?  It works effectively?  Just wrap spool with electiraincan tape first? Then tie slip not to that and begin to spool

[Alpha Male]

So if I plan to use only braid and respool every year. I could us the black electrician tape way?  It works effectively?  Just wrap spool with electiraincan tape first? Then tie slip not to that and begin to spool

 

 

There is no need to repsool every year. one of the advantages of braid is that it should last 5+years.

[RB 77]

Electrical tape, masking tape, flex wrap, will all work fine. I use about ten - 20 cranks of monofilament.

[meade95]

Thanks everyone! Just reread all advice. I plan to do the backing I'm thinking. I'll spool out to another reel and go from there.  Best easiest knot to tie mono to braid is? 

[RB 77]

Thanks everyone! Just reread all advice. I plan to do the backing I'm thinking. I'll spool out to another reel and go from there.  Best easiest knot to tie mono to braid is? 

 

Uni to Uni. Its a "big" knot, but it easy to tie and strong. It will be "burried" anyway, so  no need to fret. I also use the modified Albright for some applications. Its a very "thin" and strong knot, but can be tricky to tie (cinch down) in some case.

[Choporoz]

Thanks everyone! Just reread all advice. I plan to do the backing I'm thinking. I'll spool out to another reel and go from there.  Best easiest knot to tie mono to braid is? 

Best easiest?  I like that phrasing. 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/152999-whats-the-best-braid-to-fluoro-knot/

 

Personally, I think Blood may be easiest...some bamini/bikini impossible contraption that I saw on a video may be best....but Albright just might be the best easiest....unless its uni/uni or Alberto or ....

[meade95]

Really appreciate the all the advice! I'm a dipsh*t for not looking into this prior to respooling all my reels.  Cost me a good fish yesterday and I noticed it on several others I boated.   Thanks again.

[Goose52]

The question has already been answered....but to those who wonder why you shouldn't just tie to the holes in the spool, or you DO tie to the holes in the spool but feel uneasy about it, I would pose a question:  In the event you ever hook-up with fish like these...do you want to have the chance of getting spooled and then be in a tug of war with a 35-50 pound fish, with 20-65 pound braid, and have all that fight being transmitted through your spool shafts?  OR, would you just want to be spooled and lose the cost of the line?

 

Me?  I'd rather tape the braid to the spool if I wasn't using backing, or if using nylon mono backing, I'm using an arbor knot for the mono.

 

Just depends on what kind of fish you might run into I guess...

 

 

[Sam]

Try to match the diameter of the braid with the diameter of the mono backing.

[Penguino]

For the Uni-Uni knot, the lines have to be approxiametly the same diameter. Not exactly but pretty close. I agree with Goose. If you deal with a huge carp or bass, and your braid is tied to your wiffle spool, all that tension will be placed on your reel gears. Not a good thing at all.

[meade95]

Many do have confidence is just using braid tired to spool (with spool covered in black electricians tape). Sans going with the backing of mono.  

 

I guess I plan to try each but if tape on spool is enough I kind of like the ease with that! (I have 10 poles to restring now! ).

[meade95]

The uni to uni knot does seem simple enough. I guess I will do both. Some with backing of mono and maybe try just with tape on spool for some.  (How much tape. Just once wrapped around. Or several wraps of tape?).

[meade95]

I've respooled 4 reels tonight. Went with just the electrician tape around the spool / braid tied to taped spool (have to go out and get some mono to test that method). I've never experienced the slippage I felt yesterday on the water so this has me thinking all day.

 

It is interesting that simple electrician tape around spool does the trick (I only wrapped around maybe 2 / 3 times).  that enough is good for the braid to not slip I believe??

 

Wonder if reels will go to a type of rubber fitting around the spool to solve this braid issue (pre market purchase).

[rippin-lips]

I use electrical tape around the spool on a few of my reels that don't hold a lot of line. Never had an issue with slipping.