Deep Water Cranking With Flipping Stick

[HookdUP]

Very informative video ... But what do you guys thing of the flipping stick for crankbait rod deal?

[bigturtle]

Been doing it for a few years. It gives you more power to set the hook so why not.

[tomustang]

I don't. I use a moderate.

[J Francho]

My flipping stick is a moderate action, but no way would I fish a crank with it. Not sure why you'd need it for better hooksets. Sounds like your fishing dull hooks.

[eyedabassman]

I am going to give that a try!!

[CRANKENSTIEN]

Great video:  His flipping bends like a medium heavy rod, which will play the fish better once she is hooked.  I like a medium action for smaller cranks with lighter hooks under 12' depth.  You get a long cast a good hookup and with the play in the rod she is wore out by the time you handle her at the boat.  A medium heavy on deeper larger hooked cranks will drive the hook better and you still get a good play.  

[kikstand454]

I fish 12-20' with a mh/m sometimes mh/f.

This past summer, we ended up ledge fishing on a day I didn't have a crank rod with me. I tied a FFS on to my t-rig rod and caught three fish in 15'ow- one my pb ( confirmed) at 8.63#. I hooked and landed every bite I had that day.

[Big C]

That's flippin' awesome.  Gonna try that this year. 

[bassinyea]

Don't do it bro.  I believe you will lose a lot of fish this way.  Just because Dudley seems to think this is the right way, what about KVD and all the other pros that believe having a limber rod is better.  And personal experience has taught me this as well, I used to actually use a stiff action rod for crankbaits a few years back and lost a lot more fish than I do now.

[JGBassinAL]

Y'all did notice that fish hardly had the back treble in its mouth right? He was very close to missing that fish. I prefer glass rods and the fish really inhale it. I haven't lost a fish on a dd crank since switching to glass almost a year ago.

 

EDIT: And when I say glass I mean a custom made rod on an e-glass blank, not the crappy s-glass that's used for the Skeet Reese rods and other production rods.

[smalljaw67]

I was never big on moderate action rods for cranking until I got my rear handed to me in a team tournament. My friend, who also turned me on to a glass rod, found a great spot and we had an excellent crankbait bite going, it was the beginning of fall and at the time I based my rod choice by weight of the bait. I was throwing a Poes 300 series on a medium heavy fast action rod and my friend throwing a Norman deep little N on an old glass rod he had just for crankbaits and we were catching fish. I landed 2 out of 7 fish, and the ones I lost were nice, in fact one of the lost one would have won lunker, my buddy landed every fish he caught and after that day I began to use a moderate action rod for cranks. Now, the super big baits or any bait that uses a 1/0 and larger treble hook, that is when a moderate rod starts to not matter, at least that is the way I think because the larger trebles do penetrate but try using a flipping stick on a bait with size 6 or size 4 trebles, you will lose a lot of fish because they don't penetrate past the barb very much.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

If you have the right bait and retrieve the fish will eat it well enough to hook themselves for the most part unless the hooks are dull. Also, Moderate & Soft actions are not the same thing. To each his own, but this is not something I'd recommend to a client looking for a deep cranking rod. 

[scaleface]

 . I was throwing a Poes 300 series on a medium heavy fast action rod and my friend throwing a Norman deep little N on an old glass rod he had just for crankbaits and we were catching fish. I landed 2 out of 7 fish, and the ones I lost were nice, in fact one of the lost one would have won lunker, my buddy landed every fish he caught and after that day I began to use a moderate action rod for cranks. Now, the super big baits or any bait that uses a 1/0 and larger treble hook, that is when a moderate rod starts to not matter, at least that is the way I think because the larger trebles do penetrate but try using a flipping stick on a bait with size 6 or size 4 trebles, you will lose a lot of fish because they don't penetrate past the barb very much

Maybe it was the Deep Little N . 

[ww2farmer]

For me, my flipping stick was the only rod "man enough" to handle the big baits like a 10xd. Other than those, which I don't even bother with anymore, I use a 7'6" MH Mod. cranking specific rod. I will occasionally toss 6xd's and such on my flipping stick in the middle of summer,especially if I am ripping the bait out of a lot of grass down there, to combat the "wet noodle" effect of a cranking rod.

[matuka]

I know of a lot of really good sticks out here who crank with flippin sticks. And not just deep divers. They feel that you need the extra backbone to drive a few treble points into a bony mouth of bigger bass, say at least five pounds. The smaller "tournament" fish can shake off easier cuz there is no give to these sticks and they are using braid too. But they really don't want two pounders anyway.

[Ozark_Basser]

Y'all did notice that fish hardly had the back treble in its mouth right? He was very close to missing that fish. I prefer glass rods and the fish really inhale it. I haven't lost a fish on a dd crank since switching to glass almost a year ago.

EDIT: And when I say glass I mean a custom made rod on an e-glass blank, not the crappy s-glass that's used for the Skeet Reese rods and other production rods.

I agree with your logic behind letting the fish get the whole bait with a glass rod as opposed to a fast action graphite rod. Im all for it. Even if you reel set with a fast action rod you still get a ton of fish on the rear treble. What I don't get is why you are so enthusiastic about glass rods when there are graphite rods with the exact same taper with less weight and more sensitivity.

[poisonokie]

awesome, because I did not wanna throw down cash for a deep cranking rod.

[iceintheveins]

Totally disagree. A moderate or moderate fast crankbait rod made of glass, specialized graphite, or composite material is the way to go. A quality cranking rod will be sensitive yet still have that parabolic action keep hooks pinned and to load properly for long casts. Use fluorocarbon and your sensitivity to what your bait is doing and hitting will increase.

[iceintheveins]

awesome, because I did not wanna throw down cash for a deep cranking rod.

 

The Halo 7'11" MH cranking rod is only $130 and it's awesome. The BPS crankin' stick in 7'11" MH can be had for less than $100, it's not quite as good as the Halo but it's still good.

[poisonokie]

Well, I have a Tatula 7'7" M glass that is awesome for anything with a treble hook up to about an ounce, (it's rated 1/4-3/4 oz) but the lightest deep crank I've seen is a 1.25 oz realis that supposedly reaches 20' and most are 2 oz or more. I guess a good deep cranking rod could possibly be found in a Swimbait or umbrella rig rod...

[Grantman83]

To be fair, many big crankbait rods now have a ton of backbone and a moderate action which a punch Rod or deep Carolina rig Rod...I can see it being an option