CK_32 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Spike it plastisol is about $32 for a 1 gallon jug Do-it plastisol is about $65 for a 1 gal container but comes in a neat little box and spout. I just started pouring my own baits with POP hand pours and rubber molds. I see people reccomend do-it as "the best" plastic there is. Is it really worth exactly double other places like spike it? Even if it is better is it 2x better? 2 gallons is a lot of lures vs the 1 gal your paying for "premium" plastic. Have any of you guys tried either or? Or know the actual difference? Is it really that much better? I'm a salt water guy and hardly use finesse rigs, so is it worth even opting for the "premium" rubber? I just ordered a tub of spike it and tried make-it-lure previously. Am I missing anything? Or is it just the box and spout what your paying for? Quote
Ben Eipert Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Check out the Essential Series plastisol. It is from Do-It and is only $45 dollars. Quote
CK_32 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Posted February 27, 2015 Yea I saw that literally 10 min after posting this. But what is so "premium" about their premium plasti? I'm curious what "premium" plastic does. Cause I've used thousands of different soft baits and I can't recall ever feeling a plastic that's THAT much more superior. But even that plastic is about $8 more than other places. Am I right in assuming do it is just slightly higher priced than others? Or do they actually have superior products? Quote
Ben Eipert Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I have no clue. I have just started pouring. I like their plastic. Have not used others though. Quote
enforcer Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I'm not sure how do'it's new essential series is but I found that their other plastics had decent strength but were terrible for yellowing . I think premium is only in the pricing ! Heat stablizer helped some but not nearly enough for my satisfaction . If they have minimized the yellowing in the essential series then it should be pretty decent plastic Lurecraft has a great plastic , I've used the 502 medium which is quite durable and makes a good bait , but at this point I'm using the plastic from bait junky which is also pretty good . Both plastics are better than do-it in my opinion , they are cheaper and they last longer before burning up . I test a lot of molds and my plastic gets tortured from being reheated a rediculous amount of times , far beyond what would be considered normal use , so I need a tough cheap plastic since most of it eventually lands up in the garbage Bait wise , I've been happy with the action of both mentioned plastics . I fish a lot of nasty areas and they stand up to the abuse and the baits behave as they should Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted March 1, 2015 Super User Posted March 1, 2015 Here is what I can tell you about plastic in general. When you look at prices you also have to look at the additives like hardener, softener, and heat stabilizer. More expensive plastic normally, not always but normally, handles a higher temp without scorching better than less expensive plastic so if you use a microwave where you really just guess at temps, you end up having to use heat stabilizer in greater quantity. The same deal with the hardness of the plastic, if you buy say a medium plastic to make a soft bait but somewhat durable, the more expensive plastic, on average, is going to require less softener to achieve your desired hardness versus the inexpensive plastic. Now, if you just want to make a bait and don't care how hard or soft it comes out and you don't care about color consistency, well you can buy the cheap stuff and have at it but there is a lot more involved with it that just heat and pour. You know if you have everything right with your plastic recipe if you can do white or pearl, those colors are heat sensitive and with cheap plastic and a microwave you often see more of a cream color because the plastic will scorch and so you need to add heat stabilizer to get it right, sometimes it is 2 ounces and sometimes it is 6 ounces but you pretty much get what you pay for. Good luck. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I tried them all and use Baitjunkies now. http://www.shopbaitjunkys.com/Premium-De-Gassed_c_130.html Quote
CK_32 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Posted March 3, 2015 Care to elaborate a little more? What brought you to that conclusion? Color? Heat? End plastic result? Ect ect. Why do you like it over the others, why don't you like the others? Pro's con's? I'm getting my shipment tomorrow morning. Probably be cooking by tomorrow night. But am really interested in what you have to say about the whole line up. Might save me some time buying, testing or avoiding others. Quote
Strothman Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Care to elaborate a little more? What brought you to that conclusion? Color? Heat? End plastic result? Ect ect. Why do you like it over the others, why don't you like the others? Pro's con's? I'm getting my shipment tomorrow morning. Probably be cooking by tomorrow night. But am really interested in what you have to say about the whole line up. Might save me some time buying, testing or avoiding others. I've used a lot of Numb's advice, and he told us to start with baitjunkys. Acutally my first post on here was "Best Plastisol" and many pointed us towards baitjunkys. In our experience, we bought a gallon from a separate company, and it was junk. It sepperated when sitting for to long, it was full of bubbles, and just wasn't making good baits for us(could have been we weren't too educated at the time.) We have used about seven gallons of baitjunkys degased...and it is outstanding. Quote
CK_32 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Posted March 4, 2015 Gotcha! Depending on how this spike it plastic does for me, maybe I'll give them a BJ a look. Quote
CK_32 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Posted March 5, 2015 Alright just got my stuff from Spike-it (Lureworks). Been pouring all night. This stuff isn't that bad. cooks up clear, heats and sets with out any head stabilizer, no yellowing\. Bubbles a little, but that's the struggle of a hand pourer. Their medium is a little softer than I prefer, fills pretty good tho since its so soft. Spike it sent me 2 jugs of softener to test for them, don't think I'll use it with this batch. Already too soft for my use. Actually need a hardener for this one. Takes well to dyes and colors. I'm going to call spike it a win. Probably try Bait Junkies for my next order just to try it out. But will come back to spike it, their stuff is legit. CS is awesome too, like I said they threw in 2 quarts of 2 different softeners to test for them free of charge. Thought that was pretty cool. Also talked me out of getting a specific red due to it being known to bleed. Anyone wanna trade some hardener for some softener?? Quote
SPrawel Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Baitjunky. Been using it for a while, have had 0 issues. Great price Quote
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