Tatula Rods: 7'2" Hf Vs 7'2" Mhr

[DocNsanE]

I'm considering buying one of these two rods. I could go ahead and tell you what I want to use it for, but I'd be even more interested to hear what you would use them for.

 

What application would you use these rods for?

[ZB85]

I have the 7'2"mhr and use it for swim jigs, bladed jigs(chatterbaits), and spinnerbaits. I think it's a great rod with enough backbone to drive the hook home but a delayed tip so you don't pull the bait away from the fish.

[DocNsanE]

I have the 7'2"mhr and use it for swim jigs, bladed jigs(chatterbaits), and spinnerbaits. I think it's a great rod with enough backbone to drive the hook home but a delayed tip so you don't pull the bait away from the fish.

so you think it's well suited for single-hook moving baits? Do you use it for bottom contact at all? (dragging/pitching a jig or a t-rig for instance)

[ZB85]

I wouldn't use it for jigs or trigs. The tip is a little too moderate for those techniques.

[Ozark_Basser]

Regular=moderate. I personally wouldn't use it for anything but trebles. Just my opinion.

[DocNsanE]

Regular=moderate. I personally wouldn't use it for anything but trebles. Just my opinion.

 

That was my initial thought, I did see some posts when searching the forums from others claiming it was closer to a moderate-fast and did well with single hooks. Another reason I was curious what others thought of its applications.

[ZB85]

It's definitely more of a moderate-fast than a moderate

[Jrob78]

The MH/Reg is a graphite mod/fast with a decent amount of power.  It is great with single hooked moving baits.  I don't have any experience with heavy/fast rod.

[smalljaw67]

It will work with single hook reaction baits like spinnerbaits or even a chatterbait but I would not use it for jigs or worms. You aren't going to have the same amount of sensitivity or feel with the regular taper either so unless you are going to use it for reaction baits I'd say get a different model.

[DocNsanE]

The main reason I posted this topic is because I saw this video and he claims the 7'2"MH makes an excellent jig rod and this really surprised me given the softer tip.

[smalljaw67]

While I would call the regular taper a moderate fast action, that rod in the video is not a regular taper. I'm going to guess that it is the 7'2" H-F, I may be wrong but the regular tapers from Daiwa's other rods flex a lot further than what the rod in the video did.

[Montanaro]

For reference, Randy Howell has been using the 'regular' medium light tatula to toss cranks in the last 2 classics.

[rippin-lips]

The regular on the Tatula series is a mod-fast.

A lot of high quality Jdm rods use a mod-fast taper. It's not like the moderate on a cranking rod.

Also a lot of people like mod-fast for punching since it transitions into the backbone faster.

[DocNsanE]

While I would call the regular taper a moderate fast action, that rod in the video is not a regular taper. I'm going to guess that it is the 7'2" H-F, I may be wrong but the regular tapers from Daiwa's other rods flex a lot further than what the rod in the video did.

In the video's description it says it's a 7'2" Medium-Heavy.

[DocNsanE]

Also a lot of people like mod-fast for punching since it transitions into the backbone faster.

 

Not sure I understand this statement, I'm sorry for my ignorance. In my mind something that flexes closer to the tip like an xfast or a fast would transition into the backbone faster than something that flexes further down the rod like a mod-fast.

 

I am looking for a rod that I would use mainly to pitch t-rigs, jigs, jika rigs and the like. It would be nice if I could also use it occasionally for c-rigs as well but if not, I can live with that. I was thinking something around the 7'2"-7'4" range so that I can get a bit more distance while remaining fairly accurate with my pitches since up here the water is usually really clear. I want something with enough power to fish in moderate vegetation since our lakes are also fairly weedy, however I'm not planning on punching matted vegetation very often (if at all).

 

I was hoping the 7'2" MHR would fit the bill, especially if I could also use it for moving baits like spinnerbaits and bladed jigs, but the most important thing for this rog would be sensitivity. I could go with the 7'2" HF but I'm worried it would be a little stiff and kind of a broom stick.

 

Maybe tatulas aren't the rod for me... maybe I should look at the *** Blacks, the iRod GenII, a Fenwick, Okuma TCS or something like that.

 

I really like everything I've read about the Tatulas though, although I've also read great things about all these others (except the Okuma which I haven't found much info on).

 

Well, I guess there's no rush. There's still a couple feet of snow out there. I'll just keep reading for now.

 

Thanks to everyone for your insight.

 

edit: or maybe I should just go with the Tatula 7'1"MHXF

[Montanaro]

If I weren't such a daiwa fanboy I'd have okuma tcs. I have the 7' MH and love it for crankbaits.

If you are looking for a pitching rod I'd go with the fast or xfast. Lemme break it down.

Faster rods are good at getting to the power of rod, so when pitching to timber you have power to pull fish from limbs and trees. A moderate rod is going to give the fish an opportunity to surge for a sharp line shredding object. The fast action also helps in pushing hook through the soft plastic and into the fish.

Moderate action would require the use of braid when pitching. The braid will improve sensitivity so feeling bites won't be a problem. The rod has give since the braid doesn't stretch which is a real benefit with single hook moving baits.

I'll finish by saying the 'regular' tatula rods were meant for treble hooks until they came out with their glass rods.

[smalljaw67]

Not sure I understand this statement, I'm sorry for my ignorance. In my mind something that flexes closer to the tip like an xfast or a fast would transition into the backbone faster than something that flexes further down the rod like a mod-fast.

 

I am looking for a rod that I would use mainly to pitch t-rigs, jigs, jika rigs and the like. It would be nice if I could also use it occasionally for c-rigs as well but if not, I can live with that. I was thinking something around the 7'2"-7'4" range so that I can get a bit more distance while remaining fairly accurate with my pitches since up here the water is usually really clear. I want something with enough power to fish in moderate vegetation since our lakes are also fairly weedy, however I'm not planning on punching matted vegetation very often (if at all).

 

I was hoping the 7'2" MHR would fit the bill, especially if I could also use it for moving baits like spinnerbaits and bladed jigs, but the most important thing for this rog would be sensitivity. I could go with the 7'2" HF but I'm worried it would be a little stiff and kind of a broom stick.

 

Maybe tatulas aren't the rod for me... maybe I should look at the *** Blacks, the iRod GenII, a Fenwick, Okuma TCS or something like that.

 

I really like everything I've read about the Tatulas though, although I've also read great things about all these others (except the Okuma which I haven't found much info on).

 

Well, I guess there's no rush. There's still a couple feet of snow out there. I'll just keep reading for now.

 

Thanks to everyone for your insight.

 

edit: or maybe I should just go with the Tatula 7'1"MHXF

 

That is why I have rods from different manufacturers because not all models fit my needs. I will say that most of my rods from now on will be Fenwick rods and it is because the power, actions, and lengths fit my fishing perfectly and before I ran into these I had mostly Loomis with a few of this and that. I have a 7'2" MH-XF Fenwick Aetos, it does double duty as a pitching rod and swim jigs but it is very stiff and has a lot more power than a typical medium heavy and it works for me because I want that power rod to pitch with but I don't want it in a 7'6" or longer rod, I only have 1 flipping rod and I hate pitching with that length. My suggestion would be to see what else is around for your price range, I always wondered why they label the rod as regular it doesn't matter, I only use braid for heavy flipping and frogs so the rest of my fishing is done with copolymer lines and the mod fast tapers don't work when using a line that stretches. You could probably use that Tatula if you use braid, it would give you a rod that can double as a reaction bait rod but added flex with mono or fluorocarbon isn't the best choice.

[DocNsanE]

You could probably use that Tatula if you use braid, it would give you a rod that can double as a reaction bait rod but added flex with mono or fluorocarbon isn't the best choice.

 

Hmmm I do enjoy my braid quite a bit, that might work.

 

I also love my Fenwick elite tech smallmouth spinning rod, maybe I should check out their casting offerings.

[bigfishbk86]

I've got multiple rods in both models, and I think the 7'2 H is what you're looking for. It is definitely not a broom sick and has a very responsive almost perfect tip. The mhrb is most definitely not a moderate action, and I'd say it's closer fast than moderate, but the mod-fast designation is perfect.

[jtesch]

I have the 7'2" Heavy and the 7'1" mh  xf. Both are great rods. The 7'2" is a true bottom contact rod and will easily handle up to 1 ounce. It isn't a stump puller but will get the job done in most cover. It is not an all purpose rod in my opinion as it is pretty stout. The 7'1" is  a great rod, light and very sensitive. It can handle stuff up too 3/4 ounce and manages lighter baits well. I use it for a lot of things but it is my number 1 rod for 8" lizards and magnum super flukes. It has a surprising amount of backbone  when loaded up. I would be OK with using it for some reaction baits but not every day.

[DocNsanE]

Thanks a lot for sharing your first hand experience and helping me decide. I am assuming you are happy with your Tatula?