Topwater Baits With Treble Hooks??

[BassinNCstyle]

Hello, I know with crank baits the rod should be medium with mono line due to the treble hooks on cranks, but does the same apply for topwater baits with treble hooks? Like can I use the same setup for poppers?

 

Thanks!

[Ozark_Basser]

Yep

[Penguino]

As long as it has treble hooks, you can essentially use any lure(excluding soft swimbaits)  with a crankbait rod.

[Angry John]

Depending on how you work them length might be better a little shorter but the action and power are fine. I use a 7'6" for cranks and a 6'6" for most top waters.

[ABW]

It'll work. I actually prefer a shorter rod with a F action for topwaters (6'6"-6'10")

[WRB]

The most important factor with a top water lure is your ability to work the lure to give it the action needed to create a strike. The rod you use is important and needs to be able to work the lure. Hook setting is a timing thing with top water lures, you see the strike before feeling it. Too quick to hook set or too slow and you miss.

If your crank bait rod can properly work the lure then it's OK, if not use a different rod and don't worry about the treble hooks as long as they are sharp.

Tom

[SirSnookalot]

Only addressing what I do, I use the same rods regardless of lure type, treble or single hook, or species of fish.  The only decision is ul, light, ml, med or mh.  I don't over think it, I just naturally react.

[smalljaw67]

Moderate action rods are great for crankbaits but with topwaters it is a bit difficult because sometimes the flex doesn't allow you to work the bait consistently, this also applies to jerkbaits. In order to have full control over the bait you need a fast action rod but then that isn't the best to fight a fish once it is hooked so what do you do? Well you can go with a medium heavy, moderate fast rod, that will have enough backbone that it doesn't flex too much allowing you to work the bait and fight a fish when it is hooked. The problem though is that kind of rod tends to overpower smaller 1/4oz baits so as long as the bait is 3/8oz or heavier you'll be fine with that. You can also do the "great compromise", a medium power rod with a fast action, this rod will give you total control over the bait and the medium power is forgiving enough that it will let you fight a fish hooked on treble hooks without yanking them free from the fish. The downside to that is you are pretty much limited to 1/4 to 1/2oz baits and it still isn't as good as a moderate action. Basically when it comes to those baits you are going to either compromise on the control or the bait, or control of the fish and when you focus on control of the fish, you may not be getting as many strikes, and focusing on control of the bait means you might not be landing all of the fish that hit, so pick your poison, for me it is the medium power, fast action rod.

[roadwarrior]

A specific example is my dedicated jerkbait rod. This is an Avid AVC66MF with a soft tip.

For top water I use a popping rod, G. Loomis PR844C, Medium Heavy Power/ Fast Action

and a soft tip.

 

 

 

[Sherlock 60]

I like my spinnerbait specific 6'10" MH MF rod for 3/8 and up topwaters.

[ChrisD46]

Depending on how you work them length might be better a little shorter but the action and power are fine. I use a 7'6" for cranks and a 6'6" for most top waters.

^^This^^ ... You can even go shorter for Top Water Popper /Walking Baits . My baitcast rod is a  6' M action (which I also use for hard Jerk Baits) .

[J Francho]

I use a medium power, x-fast rod with topwaters. I find it gives me more control with twitch/walking baits.

[Chris at Tech]

A specific example is my dedicated jerkbait rod. This is an Avid AVC66MF with a soft tip.

For top water I use a popping rod, G. Loomis PR844C, Medium Heavy Power/ Fast Action

and a soft tip.

 

 

 

 

Just curious since generally you and I have both very much liked the Avid 66MF.  For me, this rod gets equal duty for jerkbaits and topwaters (walking and poppers).  Any reason you go with a different rod for topwater?

[roadwarrior]

Not really. Maybe a little more distance with the longer rod. What might sound odd,

I don't like the PR844C for working jerkbaits even though the techniques might seem

nearly identical. If I were carrying just one it would definitely be the Avid.

[Angry John]

Just curious since generally you and I have both very much liked the Avid 66MF. For me, this rod gets equal duty for jerkbaits and topwaters (walking and poppers). Any reason you go with a different rod for topwater?

I use that rod for smaller top water jerks and 1+1.5 square bills. In a situation with limited space I use it for a lot, and it works well.

[FishTank]

I have a G. Loomis 783 GLX that fits the bill nicely for topwater.  It is 6'6" MH Fast with a soft tip.  It is a very versatile rod. 

[stkbassn]

This might sound crazy but I was using the powell diesel 7'2 mh, extra fast for top water thundersticks and it was the best rod for that application I've ever had. Handled stripers and big bass with ease.

Any suggestions for a rod that could be it's replacement? I might just buy the new version of it...I have one combo for that application only so not looking to invest a ton. Had a 200e citica and that rod...thunderstick is about 5/8 OZ

PS..shouldn't have sold it. Lol