Maico1 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 So, I'm seriously looking at buying one of these finally. I've never had a Loomis rod before and I figured I might as well go with the top of the line from their offerings. I've done some research but I'm not positive on which rod would be the rod for me. As with all my rods, I'm looking for versatility as I don't have a large aresnal. I will use this rod for feel/bottom contact techniques. I want something that can primarily throw 1/4oz - 1/2oz t-rigs and jigs and weightless senko's/flukes. I'll most likely be putting a Core 51mg7 on the rod. I've read that the 893 is THE rod for weightless senko's and soft jerkbatis, but it seems people usually step it up to the 4 power when throwing 1/2oz jigs. I will stay on the lighter side of the range I mentioned (mostly weightless plastics and a lot of 1/4oz t-rigs), but definitely want something that can handle up to a 1/2oz jig + trailer. I won't be fishing anything incredibly deep, nor will I be throwing into any heavy vegetation. I will, however, expect to be casting around lay downs, light - moderate grass, rocks, stumps, etc. I'm mostly interested in the 7'1 and the 7'5 lengths. Thank you for any help in advance. Well I will go against the grain taking into consideration what you want to do with the your potential NRX. I would recommend the 803, now granted it is a 6'8" rod but it will handle your needs with no problems. In fact I even find myself using the 802 more and more over the 803 when fishing within your needs.....This little sucker was caught on a weightless senko using the 802 with plenty of backbone to get it landed....... 3 Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Hmmm...I have to be honest, I'm surprised no one directed you to the NRX 843 MBR. I know your range was 7'1" to 7'5", but if you are looking for a very diverse rod, then the 843 MBR seems to handle a lot of techniques well. With that being said, any NRX you choose will be the right decision. 1 Quote
BassmanDan Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 I finally pulled the trigger on one...what made my decision easier was getting $180 off by trading in one of my old rods I would never use again. The details on the offer are here...http://www.thehookuptackle.com/gloomisb.php 1 Quote
Diggy Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 I think the Blue is a hideously ugly rod but it doesn't have a finish on the blank so it should be more sensitive... I ordered the green but it came broken and opted for the blue after seeing the green. Based on the amount Ive fished it, I should have opted on saving my money =( Quote
Arv Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 I've seen this pairing before! I personally like the green rod more and it would be awesome go get my hands on a green 51 shimano, as opposed to the white, grey, black, and gold 51's that I have right now... haha. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 I've seen this pairing before! I personally like the green rod more and it would be awesome go get my hands on a green 51 shimano, as opposed to the white, grey, black, and gold 51's that I have right now... haha. I did that pairing twice - on the 893C and on a 852C - it's an attractive color combo. These photos of the 893C are actually older file photos. The 893C now has a Met XG on it... 2 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 I have the 802C & the 804C. I have used the 804C for jigs 1/2 to 1oz and it does the job. I have also used it for 1/2 & 3/4 oz spinner baits, 4-6" plastic swim baits and topwater. It performs well for many applications. I think you would be happy with a 4 weight in the 854c or 894C if you want a 7-1" or 7-5" rod. The 4 weight handles the 3 weight jobs nicely but gives you a little extra margin when you truly need the 4 weight. LuckyCraft's suggestion about the MBR rods being very versatile is spot on. 1 Quote
Arv Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 I have the 802C & the 804C. I have used the 804C for jigs 1/2 to 1oz and it does the job. I have also used it for 1/2 & 3/4 oz spinner baits, 4-6" plastic swim baits and topwater. It performs well for many applications. I think you would be happy with a 4 weight in the 854c or 894C if you want a 7-1" or 7-5" rod. The 4 weight handles the 3 weight jobs nicely but gives you a little extra margin when you truly need the 4 weight. LuckyCraft's suggestion about the MBR rods being very versatile is spot on. What is the difference between the JWR and the MBR in the Loomis line up? If that's too general a question, would you be able to at least give the difference between the 843MBR and the 853JWR? Thanks! Quote
kschultz76 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks for starting this thread. I'm considering a similar NRX purchase in the future for the same uses and have started researching. Someone brought up the 873 which had popped up on my radar as well as the two rods you're considering. Great thread and thanks to everyone for their input. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 What is the difference between the JWR and the MBR in the Loomis line up? If that's too general a question, would you be able to at least give the difference between the 843MBR and the 853JWR? Thanks! I'll try and answer this for Dwight, because he has a lot of preparing to do for this upcoming Spring Smallmouth Extravaganza he is going to put a whoop down on. I have both the 853C JWR and the 843 MBR. The 843 MBR is a fast action rod (as opposed to the extra-fast action of the 853C JWR). This slightly slower action seems to open to door to techniques like crankbaits, jerkbaits, topwater and other treble hook style lures (as a side note, there are a lot of guys who like an extra-fast action rod for jerkbaits & topwater, but I am not one of them). Also, the action and power of the 843C MBR is just perfect for Spinnerbaits. As for the 853C JWR (and other in the JWR series), these are really geared towards jigs and plastics. That extra-fast action really allows for working those bottom contact baits and the little more stout blank of the 853C is good for pulling fish through any type of light cover. With that being said, if you fish plastics & jigs like 90% of the time, then I would be looking into the JWR line-up as it will fish other techniques. If you want just one rod to really handle a lot of situations, then the 843C MBR would be my choice. As a Disclaimer, NRX rods are very addicting and you may say you just want one, but you will never be able to limit yourself. You will feel the comfort and sensitivity of that 853C JWR or 843C MBR or whatever you choose and say, "Maybe I'll just get one NRX finesse set-up?" With that you'll get the NRX 852S JWR. Then you'll say, "You know, there is some heavy cover I really want to get that frog through or a punching rig in," and you'll end up with the NRX 895C JWR or NRX 916C UBR. Then you'll say, "I really want a NRX jerkbait rod," and realized they don't make one, so you go and buy a NRX 843C MBR and take it to a professional rodmaker to modify it to get the action you want. It's just a never ending sickness. I just want to warn you before you get into that "gateway" NRX rod. Good luck in your search. 2 Quote
Arv Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 I'll try and answer this for Dwight, because he has a lot of preparing to do for this upcoming Spring Smallmouth Extravaganza he is going to put a whoop down on. I have both the 853C JWR and the 843 MBR. The 843 MBR is a fast action rod (as opposed to the extra-fast action of the 853C JWR). This slightly slower action seems to open to door to techniques like crankbaits, jerkbaits, topwater and other treble hook style lures (as a side note, there are a lot of guys who like an extra-fast action rod for jerkbaits & topwater, but I am not one of them). Also, the action and power of the 843C MBR is just perfect for Spinnerbaits. As for the 853C JWR (and other in the JWR series), these are really geared towards jigs and plastics. That extra-fast action really allows for working those bottom contact baits and the little more stout blank of the 853C is good for pulling fish through any type of light cover. With that being said, if you fish plastics & jigs like 90% of the time, then I would be looking into the JWR line-up as it will fish other techniques. If you want just one rod to really handle a lot of situations, then the 843C MBR would be my choice. As a Disclaimer, NRX rods are very addicting and you may say you just want one, but you will never be able to limit yourself. You will feel the comfort and sensitivity of that 853C JWR or 843C MBR or whatever you choose and say, "Maybe I'll just get one NRX finesse set-up?" With that you'll get the NRX 852S JWR. Then you'll say, "You know, there is some heavy cover I really way to get that frog through or punching rig in," and you'll end up with the NRX 895C JWR or NRX 916C UBR. Then you'll say, "I really want a NRX jerkbait rod," and realized they don't make one, so you go and buy a NRX 843C MBR and take it to a professional rodmaker to modify it to get the action you want. It's just a never ending sickness. I just want to warn you before you get into that "gateway" NRX rod. Good luck in your search. Such is fishing I suppose. Or at least fishing gear, haha. Thank you very much for your response though. Since I do fish plastics closer to 90% of the time, and I have other rods to handle spinners and trebles, I think I'm going to continue leaning towards the JWR. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks Steve. Lucky Craft Man has 12 NRX counting the new one on its way to him. I think he qualifies as an expert on the NRX line. 1 Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks Steve. Lucky Craft Man has 12 NRX counting the new one on its way to him. I think he qualifies as an expert on the NRX line. Haha...I don't know about being an expert, but what I do know is I can't wait for that new one to come in. I hope Scott is ready, because it will be going directly to him for a trim and some weight addition. Thanks for the recommendation on that one, Dwight, because I think it will certainly fit the purpose with which it will be used. Quote
sarcazmo Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 If you can handle it make sure you do so.I bought a Dobyns DX 744 and 745 based on all the amazing reviews on the web. I was stupid and bought them without every handling them. I was VERY underwhelmed with them and they are no longer in my possession. That said, with the trade in going on @ the hook up, you could probably get one for a great deal, and if you don't like it they certainly aren't hard to move. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 Such is fishing I suppose. Or at least fishing gear, haha. Thank you very much for your response though. Since I do fish plastics closer to 90% of the time, and I have other rods to handle spinners and trebles, I think I'm going to continue leaning towards the JWR. Y'know, if plastics are your go-to, I just decided to sell my 852c JWR/ 51e combo. That right there is probably one of the best light plastics casting combos out there. Also buying used you lose a lot of the financial sting. It even has a wildcard. Just sayin! It's also worth nothing that these rods underclaim bigtime on their weight ratings. The 1/8-3/8 rating on the 852 is pretty much a joke. They can handle a good 1/8th more than they claim, easy. Their performance window is definitely larger than claimed. Warranty hedging? Who knows. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 http://www.americanlegacyfishing.com/ These guys do the rod trade in year around, plus 10% this time of year... If you have a rod to trade in. They are the largest GLoomis dealer in the country. I would check out all company's suggested for the "Best Deal" Quote
Arv Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 Y'know, if plastics are your go-to, I just decided to sell my 852c JWR/ 51e combo. That right there is probably one of the best light plastics casting combos out there. Also buying used you lose a lot of the financial sting. It even has a wildcard. Just sayin! It's also worth nothing that these rods underclaim bigtime on their weight ratings. The 1/8-3/8 rating on the 852 is pretty much a joke. They can handle a good 1/8th more than they claim, easy. Their performance window is definitely larger than claimed. Warranty hedging? Who knows. AH! I know! I just saw it not too long ago. My only concern is that it will overlap too much with my DX 742c. I love the 742 for light plastics and it's certainly capable of handling weightless plastics. With my Aldebaran BFS on it I can chuck things like weightless trick worms with ease. I'm looking for something with a little more meat to it for when I'm out in the yak around wood and stuff like that. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted February 18, 2015 Super User Posted February 18, 2015 AH! I know! I just saw it not too long ago. My only concern is that it will overlap too much with my DX 742c. I love the 742 for light plastics and it's certainly capable of handling weightless plastics. With my Aldebaran BFS on it I can chuck things like weightless trick worms with ease. I'm looking for something with a little more meat to it for when I'm out in the yak around wood and stuff like that. If I were you I'd sell the DX. NRX + baran = oh lawd! I'm still not 100% that I can even let it go yet. I just saw it on lunch break and am havin some serious second thoughts. Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 This won't help you at all because I haven't fished it yet (D@#M WINTER!!) and nobody in my house understands why I'm so excited, but you guys will!! A month ago I bought an NRX 893C Blue. I got it as a demo rod/rep sample, but it was brand new still in the plastic when it arrived. Can't wait to fish it. Quote
DelcoSol Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 I just got bit by the NRX bug as well. Picked up an 893 and 803 from The Tackle Trap as rep samples. Gary is awesome to deal with and the prices are great. Anyway, Gary tried to talk me into an 894 for my primary jig rod but I was a bit worried that it would be too heavy for where I fish. The cover here isn't as crazy as down south so I opted for the 893. He said it would handle the 1/2oz jig with trailer just fine plus I mainly fish 3/8. I got the 803 for a close quarters dock shipping rod for finesse jigs and light T-rigs. Upon getting both of these rods just by looking at them the 893 is significantly thicker than the 803. Gary said the 893 fishes almost like a 3 1/2 power. I have not got to try either out but just going by looks I could see that being true. The only concern I would have with these rods is the balance. They are so light and with a lighter reel they can be tip heavy depending on the model. My 893 has a Metanium on it and it is ok. An 894 would need a reel in the 7oz range I'd imagine. I am anxious to fish these rods and want to see if they live up to the hype. I switched from the Dobyns DX line so time will tell. 1 Quote
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