robster80 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 never thrown weightless or wacky rigged stuff but plan to expand my techniques this season. bought some senkos and flickshakes,etc. some wacky hooks,jigheads. is this something that would better require a spinning setup? Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 X2. Another rig I need to add to my arsenal. Quote
sprint61 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Finesse is techniques requiring light lines and lures. So yes a spinning setup would be my answer. It can be done with casting gear but could be a major headache. I see you mention senkos I fish those on 15-20lb fluro in thick stuff I don't really consider them finesse, more of a I need fish bait. If you wanna get into finesse consider light drop shot, shaky heads, and things of that nature. Also a weightless trick worm/bottom hopper is deadly I throw that on my "finesse" setup. Quote
robster80 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 what would be a good spinning setup for this.? i have a spinning setup i purchased years ago but never really used. its a 6ft medium bps graphite series with a bps spinning reel like a 5:2:1 ratio. would definitely upgrade that rod and reel if needed Quote
sprint61 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I use a 6'9" ml veritas 2.0. It's really more like a medium then a medium light, and a pflueger purist. What you have would work great, make sure you like those techniques before you drop a lot into a new setup. I would recommend a setup like mine I really like it I got it for $150. Quote
sprint61 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 And remember a 5:2:1 on a spinning reel is different then 5:2:1 in a casting reel. Quote
robster80 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 so the 5:2 spinning reel would work fine for finesse worms? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 You can use a baitcaster for finesse techniques. I do. A Chronarch 50e + a 6'6" ML rod can throw weightless Zoom tiny flukes. Spinning gear is fine, though, but not absolutely necessary. The setup you describe above, 6' rod, spinning reel will work fine as you hone the "finesse" craft. No need to break the bank right away. For me, I use braided mainline and always tie on a leader, though that is not absolutely necessary, either. I even fish with 1000 size Shimano Stradics and 10 lb Power Pro braid on M and ML setups. Most of what I do would be described as "finesse", but to be technically true, you can "finesse" a 1 oz jig. So it is more a matter of how you fish the bait, though most would say the lighter the gear, the more finesse the style. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 You can certainly use spinning gear but it isn't necessary. I fish those techniques with casting gear. Quote
robster80 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 so if i go with casting gear i need to look for say a 6-6'6 medium/xtra fast rod? or a medium lite? Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 My finesse tackle needs to be light & balanced. I need to feel my finesse baits so I strive for the most sensitive equipment to fish with... light & balanced. oe Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 What would one need to fish with a baitcaster? I'm stuck between 10 lb mono or fluoro. What terminal tackle is best? Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 so if i go with casting gear i need to look for say a 6-6'6 medium/xtra fast rod? or a medium lite? I fish Senkos on a MH/F, you have to remember that a 5" Senko is really heavy. I will fish Flick Shakes and wacky Trick Worms on a M/F. Quote
robster80 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 I fish Senkos on a MH/F, you have to remember that a 5" Senko is really heavy. I will fish Flick Shakes and wacky Trick Worms on a M/F. gotcha. thx for the info man. what length rod would u normally use for flickshakes and the trick worms? thinkn i may grab a carbonlite while theyre on sale Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 gotcha. thx for the info man. what length rod would u normally use for flickshakes and the trick worms? thinkn i may grab a carbonlite while theyre on sale I usually use a 7'3" but only because I have one that is perfect for those baits. A 6'6"-7' would be fine too. Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 don't use casting gear. you'd be ruling out the best part of weightless wacky rigged senkos: skipping them 30 ft under docks. you can skip them with spinning gear just like skimming a rock across the water when you were a kid. skip docks, laydowns/trees/bushes etc. it's so much fun and extremely productive. can you skip as effectively with a casting reel? recommending a beginner skip with casting gear is dangerous and overkill. buying a tractor trailer to drive back and forth to church looks cool but it's overkill. you'll only be able to skip a baitcaster after potentially dozens of birdnests, hundreds of dollars of replacement line and hundreds of practice hours on the water. or you can learn how to skip in 1 day with a spinning reel. plus casting reels defeat the whole purpose of easily casting light lures a far distance. 50% of my reels are casting but I use them for power fishing and heavy applications. all my finesse techniques use spinning reels. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 OP I say "run what ya brung" until you're familiar enough with the technique to know what you want out of your next specific combo to spend the $ wisely. Quote
robster80 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 ^ gotcha. but is the 5: whatever ratio sufficient for this technique? along with a mildly sensitive rod like the bps graphite series i have? Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 ^ gotcha. but is the 5: whatever ratio sufficient for this technique? along with a mildly sensitive rod like the bps graphite series i have? Yes, use what you got. You're current setup is sufficient to do what you're asking. Senkos like others have stated I use a MH/F casting rod. M/F is fine for the rest. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 A slower ratio is fine, you don't need to hyper space/ time warp speed on your spinning reel. The ideal on wacky with trick worms etc.. Is the extremely light weight. Spinning facilitates this much, much easier than baitcasting. I throw senkos on my BC gear, wacky/ weightless tricks or elaztech trick style worms, it's spinning in 7' medium fast and medium light moderate fast action. Don't stress about the speed at all.. Focus more on line & rod selection. Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I know I'll be ok trying on a baitcaster for the first time. My reel hasn't back lashed on the 1/8 oz stuff I'm throwing, so I'll be ok. Just need to find the colors that work. Quote
Robert Riley Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I use a Fenwick 6'10 ML spinning rod and a Pflueger Supreme XT with Sunline SX1 yellow and 8lb Invisx FC It's my bae haha I'm probably going to purchase a Dobyn's 702 and a Lew's Tournament Lite this summer or the next. Quote
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