Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I love the weight even though weight is the last factor in rods for me. I've got a 15 year old Allstar that feels just as good as rods I've felt today. However, I've gotten into micro guides and am finally ready to change over. I've read bad things about the Carbonlite w/micro guides. Every site. Roughly 1 in 10 reviews. Can anyone elaborate on the matter? I have some cheap Quantum rods with them and I love them. Do they have problems with them? Quote
a1712 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I used 10 Carbonlite Micro guide rods for 2.5 years roughly 250 days a year, all over the East coast. In and out of rod lockers, my truck, various boats, hotel rooms, rattling around in a rod tube all up and down the coast. When I sold them they were all like new, never had a single problem with any of the guides and that is something I too have read about. I must have got lucky or just bought from a good batch. I use all customs now and seriously don't think I've gained anything over the Carbonlites. They served me well. Brian. Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 10, 2015 Global Moderator Posted February 10, 2015 How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason. Hmm, claiming someone is stupid just because they own rods for one thing?? I'd have a heck of a time flipping weeds with my cranking rod, or lobbing an A rig/swimbait with my jerkbait rod. If you can get by with 1 rod for everything, good for you, but I hardly think it makes someone "stupid" just because they own specialized setups. 8 Quote
a1712 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Mine were the old Black models. I have no clue about the new White model, but I'd rate the Blacks as above average. Not NRX sensitive, but they don't cost $500 either. I actually purchased all my Blacks at one time for $75 each and you'd be hard pressed to find a rod as good for twice that. Brian. Quote
Poolshark Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I don't own the rods you mentioned so I can't give a fair comparison, but I've been using nothing but st croix avids and ltbs for a long while. I lost a few a while back and didn't want to spend a ton of money replacing them. I switched all but two of my combos to carbonlite micros and I feel like, performance wise, the carbonlites are just as good if not better in sensitivity. They are definetley less tip heavy and I find myself preffering them to my avids and ltbs. Hope that helps. Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 Well, they're listed at 109 I do believe. Worth the money? Quote
robster80 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 seriously? man i was set on picking up a st croix avid but after reading all this i may just go do a trade in and grab a carbonlite Quote
Poolshark Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I love st croix, so don't get me wrong. They are definetley a much better built rod. You can tell immediately when comparing the two. I still love mine. But As I've gotten more and more into the seven foot rods, I find that the medium heavy versions of the both avids and ltbs can be a little tip heavy when compared to the carbonlites. Time will tell on the build quality, I've owned the carbonlites for a few months. for now, I'm using avids for my spinning and medium action combos. I've switched over to carbonlites for my worm jig combos and tend to favor them quite a bit. Just an opinion. Quote
Poolshark Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I think that the carbonlites are worth the money. As are all bass pro rods, they seem to be an excellent performing value for the price. Haven't owned mine long enough to comment on durability. If u do a search on this forum there should be quite few threads about these rods. I started one a while back and people seemed to really like them. Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 10, 2015 Super User Posted February 10, 2015 seriously? man i was set on picking up a st croix avid but after reading all this i may just go do a trade in and grab a carbonlite Yes seriously. St. Croix rods are tip heavy, this doesn't mean they suck. I use to own St. Croix rods, but I also found they were too stiff for my liking. The latter was my biggest factor I didn't like them. Other than that, they performed well and are sensitive rods starting at the Avid line. I still own one Avid (6'6" M/F). Great all around rod and the best jerkbait rod I've ever used.  I just bought two Carbonlites last week after thinking about getting them for a long time. They definitely balance better and the 6'6" M/F is super light. I tried a Chronarch 50 E and balanced near perfect, I put a PQ on and it was still good. Definitely less tip heavy. True test is fishing them though, ice up here though. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted February 10, 2015 Super User Posted February 10, 2015 How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason.   I handled an Escalade at DSG and was impressed with how light it was. However, I try to never pay full price. Salesman said they never go on sale because they have no problem selling them at full retail. How about a review of the rod? I looked several times before Christmas hoping to find one (even at full retail), but they had none in stock. Quote
KDW96 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 . I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason. Â HMMM ? Â Quote
Super User Darren. Posted February 10, 2015 Super User Posted February 10, 2015 On Sunday I got to fish side-by-side with the black Carbonlite and the white model - both with Shimano 1000-size reels.  The white was - by far - more tip-light than the black, and the black was a ML 6'6" I had just bought the day before for 40% off.  I took it back that evening to Bass Pro and exchanged it for a white 6'6" M rod.  I have three other black Carbonlites, a 6'6" M spinning rod that is very close to the 6'6" white in lightness, but is still heavier in the tip.  The black casting rods I have are lighter than the spinning rods, and balance perfectly with my Chronarch 50e reels.  Either rod will serve your needs well.  The odd thing to me was that the ML black was heavier than my M black. Not sure why, if it was a fluke. But it was a no brainer to return it for a white model.  Bottom line for me, thus far, I'm pleased with where the white rods are going. I wasn't early on, but now that I've fished one, my mind has changed. Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 10, 2015 Super User Posted February 10, 2015 HMMM ? Â x2 Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 I handled an Escalade at DSG and was impressed with how light it was. However, I try to never pay full price. Salesman said they never go on sale because they have no problem selling them at full retail. How about a review of the rod? I looked several times before Christmas hoping to find one (even at full retail), but they had none in stock. I absolutely love it for the price. Hard to beat it at 39.99 for the 6'6 and 49.99 for the 7. And as for the people wondering what I mean by not stupid enough to buy a purpose built rod? Why in the hell would I buy a rod for cranks, jerks, plastic, spinners, topwater...you're looking at roughly $700-900 for that. Or I can buy 2 all purpose rods and high quality reels for $300. Besides, I've got the equivalent to the bait monkey with cars. Trust me, my subaru is draining the wallet just as quickly as fishing. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted February 10, 2015 Super User Posted February 10, 2015 as for the people wondering what I mean by not stupid enough to buy a purpose built rod? Why in the hell would I buy a rod for cranks, jerks, plastic, spinners, topwater... Nobody ever said you have to do that, but a very large majority of people on here have fishing as their primary hobby/obsession/passion whatever you choose to call it. Most of those people do buy rods for a specific technique. Some even drop that $700-900 you were talking about on a single setup. So when you come in here saying that buying a rod that's specifically purchased for one technique is stupid, you're going to ruffle some feathers. Especially since you're basically saying anyone who does is stupid as well. Â Â Â 3 Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 Unless you fish professionally or fish tournaments every weekend, I feel it's a waste. Granted, I'm not the richest man in the world, but I fish for the enjoyment. Spending a grand on fishing is not the route for me considering the fish I've caught on the stuff I have. If I can do it, anyone can. Quote
plumworm Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Well, I guess the rest of us just better do what Trent says cause we sure don't want to look stupid. 1 Quote
nascar2428 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I love this site for the wealth of information available. Playground antics never are very informational. Quote
kikstand454 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 As a jeep owner, I feel spending thousands more on a Subaru is stupid. See how that was insulting to you... even though I wasn't insulting you directly? You can't say something like that and not expect a little backlash. You're skin has got to be tougher if you're going to throw rocks. Different strokes, different folks and all. .... Oh. ... and the carbonlites I fooled with seemed well worth the money. I'm considering getting a few myself. 2 Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 White or black is my only problem. Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 And I do jeeps as well, I just need something reliable. 1 Quote
kikstand454 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 If you can find the black carbonlites on clearence, then pick those up. I personally feel the difference is negligible at regular prices. Quote
Trent Wilson Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 What's the difference besides color? Quote
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