Super User Catt Posted February 11, 2015 Super User Posted February 11, 2015 There's no such thing as a weightless Texas rig. In order to be called a Txas Rig, it must have a bullet weight and a weedless rigged plastic. Unweighted plastics rigged weedless, wacky, or nose hooked are classic bass catchers. Really I thought you were better informed! Birth of the Texas Rig by Nick Creme Late 50s Texas anglers threaded a single hook through the Scoundrel's head, rotated the hook, then buried the barb into the body. Notice no mention of a weight! 1
Super User J Francho Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Old Nick Creme was from Ohio.
Super User Catt Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Old Nick Creme was from Ohio. Moved his company to Tyler, Texas where it still is! Creme Lure Company P.O. Box 6162 5401 Kent Drive Tyler, Texas 74711
Super User J Francho Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Why call a Texas Rig weightless, if it doesn't include a weight? A Texas rig has a sliding bullet weight, and a weedless hooked plastic.
Super User F14A-B Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 When I think of a Texas rig, it's with weight, plastic, and a buried hook point in the plastic body. That's the way bassmaster mag described it in the later 70's..
Super User Catt Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Birth of the Texas Rig Step 1: Nick Creme invents the plastic worm Step 2: Texas anglers are buying the bulk of worms sold Step3: Nick takes a trip to Tyler, Texas & finds anglers are buying his pre-rigged worms but are only using the replacement worms rigged on a single hook. Step 4: Nick moves to Tyler, Texas Step 5: Nick sells worms with a single hook in the package Step 6: Local angler takes a bell sinker, cuts the wire, slides it on his line, ties on a hook, threads on a worm
FloridaFishinFool Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I just some digging into the history books on the Texas rig and found out that Nick Creme was not the inventor of it... well, some say he is and some say he isn't. According to the book "Catching Bass Like a Pro" by Steve Price and Guy Eake, on page 71, in chapter 10 they get into the source of the Texas rig and credit it to a local Texas fisherman named Robert Carey Scott in the mid 1960's to get down to submerged brush piles for bass holding up in them without getting hung up. Here is a link the above reference: https://books.google.com/books?id=g1ycmGO-ysUC&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=history+of+the+texas+rigged+worm&source=bl&ots=tENW2fEEqd&sig=QJQh3-mVzH3JvkDZ0qrffm12wSk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rBncVKXHMfeTsQS45YDoDg&ved=0CFEQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20the%20texas%20rigged%20worm&f=false Here is part of a good article I found on the subject: http://www.expressnews.com/sports/outdoors/article/After-65-years-original-plastic-worm-still-made-5233392.php#/0 “(Goswick) called Cosma Creme to ask her for some plastic worms,” Kent recalled in his office last month. “But the answer was that production was too far behind. We'd have to wait.” Goswick wasn't satisfied. His next call was to a local rose grower. That might seem out of context, but Tyler is known as the “Rose Capital of the World.” Goswick ordered two dozen rose bushes be sent to Mrs. Creme. Kent eased back in his chair as he retells the story of those two fateful phone calls. “I'm not sure it was the rose bushes, but two or three weeks later, we were covered up with plastic worms.” The timing was perfect. There were other factors at work at the time, and Kent is quick to note them and how they all came together in the 1950s and early '60s. “There was a reservoir-building binge, and Texas was part of it,” Kent said. “Bulldozers would clear brush and it would be piled up. Then the dam would be closed, and the lake would fill. The brush piles were covered. They were out of sight.” 'Texas rig' Meanwhile, up the road from Tyler, in Tulsa, Okla., a banana and vegetable salesman named Carl Lowrance came up with an idea that would locate the hidden brush piles. In 1957, sonar was adapted to angling when Lowrance and his sons came out with a structure-finding flasher unit that looked like a little green box. It was the Fish Lo-K-Tor. Kent recalled that about that same time, Holmes Thurmond, a businessman in nearby Shreveport, La., designed the original fiberglass bass boat. Thurmond had been making plywood Skeeter boats since the late 1940s. In 1961, along came the upgraded Super Skeeter, seen at the time as the ultimate bass boat. It could handle a 35 horsepower outboard motor and skim across the new reservoirs at an impressive 30 mph. Bass anglers then had lots of new water and fast transportation as well as a way to “look” at the bottom of a lake and find the brushy, fish-holding structure. And they had that new soft plastic Creme worm that bass seemed to like. “The problem was that you couldn't get a worm down in the brush without getting snagged,” Kent said. “Fishermen lost a lot of worms.” It is not known who, or exactly when, but it was about that time and in the Tyler area that someone came up with a terminal tackle combination called the “Texas rig.” An inventive angler had cut the brass eye loop from a bell sinker, threaded it onto his line, tied on a sharp hook and ran the hook through the head of a Creme worm — then turned the hook and pushed the tip back into the worm. “The key was that for the first time the point of the hook could be placed back into the lure,” Kent said. “The weedless lure was invented. Now anglers could get down into the hidden brush piles without snagging.” Here are some more reference articles: http://www.northcarolinasportsman.com/details.php?id=841 http://staugustine.com/stories/052304/fis_2344511.shtml http://thecabin.net/stories/053099/out_0530990096.html If I had to venture a reasonable guess, I'd say that after Nick Creme moved his rubber worm production to Tyler, Texas that he along with other fishermen in the area spread the weedless rig throughout the area by word of mouth and that Nick Creme maybe learned it this way and became one of the first to market the idea outside of Texas. I'd guess the real original source for the Texas rig is lost to history and will never be known, but today we look back and give credit to those men who brought it out of obscurity and into a national exposure. 1
Super User Sam Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Yes. But don't tell anyone as we want to keep this a secret! 1
Super User Catt Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Nich Creme did not invent the "rubber" worm, he invented the plastic worm. Google Bass Fishing Archives for the whole story of the Texas Rig not bites & pieces.
Super User J Francho Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Just like a Texas Rig has a sinker, plastic worms have been referred to as "rubber worms" for decades. We still call T-rig worms "draggin' rubber worms." 1
*Hank Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Weightless senkos are my favorite. X2. Most my fish through the years have come of a weightless T-rigged senko.
Super User Catt Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 Just like a Texas Rig has a sinker, plastic worms have been referred to as "rubber worms" for decades. We still call T-rig worms "draggin' rubber worms." As someone who has fished both rubber & plastic worms I can ya they aint the same.
Super User Bankbeater Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 I like using a weightless stik-o, or a weightless fluke around certain cover. Around really thick stuff I like to use a weightless 6" worm.
Super User J Francho Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 They don't smell the same either Catt. How many pictures on Tom Mann's worm, rigged weedless, with no weight do you get when you do a google search for Texas Rig? No one is doubting your cited origin of the rig, but as common bass fishing vernacular is concerned, a Texas Rig is a sliding weight, and plastic rigged weedless. Nothing you say can change the terminology millions of anglers have used for more than four decades.
Super User scaleface Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 The title reads "weightless Texas Rigged plastic " and everyone knows exactly what the thread is about . 1
Super User Catt Posted February 12, 2015 Super User Posted February 12, 2015 They don't smell the same either Catt. How many pictures on Tom Mann's worm, rigged weedless, with no weight do you get when you do a google search for Texas Rig? No one is doubting your cited origin of the rig, but as common bass fishing vernacular is concerned, a Texas Rig is a sliding weight, and plastic rigged weedless. Nothing you say can change the terminology millions of anglers have used for more than four decades. Can't help it if you Yankees got it wrong all these years!
corn-on-the-rob Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 Can't help it if you Yankees got it wrong all these years! I have always considered the hook set up weight or not to be a t-rig and I am up north 1
bassinOUT89 Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 I have always considered the hook set up weight or not to be a t-rig and I am up north yeah, I don't see why it matters. texas or weightless Texas. Seems like Franco is just being anal (no offense) 1
Super User Catt Posted February 13, 2015 Super User Posted February 13, 2015 Can't help it if you Yankees got it wrong all these years! Seriously Y'all Need A Sense Of Humor
Super User J Francho Posted February 13, 2015 Super User Posted February 13, 2015 When some says, "no offense," it usually means they're going to offend someone. Do a search, using what ever tool you like, for "Texas Rig." See what you get. It's not being anal, it's about being correct. Whenever a moderator gets it wrong, you guys are like sharks sniffing blood in the water, and jump all over it. But when we're right, we're "just being anal." Ok, sounds good. </thread> 1
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