Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Wow, talk about realism in a finish. While I cant understand a darn thing on this site, it is said to be coming to the US market in 2015. I would consider buying now, but how much is ¥4,010（本体価格）? http://www.jackall.co.jp/bass/products/lure/gantalel/ Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 $35 The fish 30 acre gill is awesome though 3x the price almost. Quote
BasshunterJGH Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Looks pretty cool. 4010 jpy is around $30. Expensive, but cheaper than most hard bluegill swimbaits. Quote
Djman72 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 A fish better come attached for that price.... Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 On the Japanese site there are many options for color. If you go on YouTube keepingitreel has a good review, and the realism is just phenomenal. And price wise it is comparable to the Lucky Craft which is only $10 cheaper, but half the detail. Quote
Super User deep Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 Looks good. The two line-ties are interesting! Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 Well I'm not sure if there are 2 line ties. That and there is am empty hook space in the tail. So maybe that is a third hook anchor. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 7, 2015 Global Moderator Posted February 7, 2015 $35 is pocket change for a good hard body swimbait. 6 Quote
IAY Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Well I'm not sure if there are 2 line ties. That and there is am empty hook space in the tail. So maybe that is a third hook anchor. It is two line ties btw. The bottom one lets it swim as a topwater, while the top one allows the lure to dive. You can also attach small weight to the bottom tie to change the lure from a floater to suspend or sink. A fish better come attached for that price.... You obviously don't fish swimbaits . It's relatively cheap for something of that size/quality. Quote
hatrix Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 They been around for a while now. There is also a bunch of baits they make that are similar to hudds. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 A fish better come attached for that price.... Really no different than 5 bags of senkos that you'll go through in a few months. That's also dirt cheap for a swimbait. When compared to what some of them cost. Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 They been around for a while now. There is also a bunch of baits they make that are similar to hudds. Yes but it is coming to the American market. Untill now you could only buy them off places that bought them directly or Ebay. With the direct US market I can only hope a decent price, as others had said the conversion is roughly $35. So a great price IMO. Quote
Mattlures Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I have seen a video of it swimming. The 2nd joint is very tight and has a small range of motion. From what I saw the action is like a glide bait. The bait does not swim like other lipless swimbaits. I would compare it to the Jackall giron. It seemed to rise up quickly and blew out at a medium retrieve. From the video I saw, if your wanting a sinking giron but with a much more realistic appearance that you will retrieve slowly then you will probably love this bait. I think the price is good for that bait and it looks really nice. Before you buy one I suggest you google this one and watch the video and see if its what your looking for. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 Or just buy one of Matt's hardgills and never look back. That is if you can find one for sale. There's a reason they don't come up very often and why tthey sell out in hours. I was lucky enough to get in on the last batch just had to settle for slim pickings and make a compromise 1 Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 Or just buy one of Matt's hardgills and never look back. That is if you can find one for sale. There's a reason they don't come up very often and why tthey sell out in hours. I was lucky enough to get in on the last batch just had to settle for slim pickings and make a compromise I have watched Mattlues in action in the water, and think they are outstanding to. I have seen tank videos of the floating and suspended action as well as on the water bass blowing up on them videos. I haven't pulled the trigger yet on buying one. I do have a tackle order being placed and might sneak one in. Quote
Super User deep Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 Lots of baits look cool, and swim very fluidly. Some turn out to be better producers than others. Matt's are hands down the most productive bluegill baits on the market, and seem to work very well all over the country. That he's a super cool dude and has awesome customer service don't hurt at all lol. Good luck with whatever bait you get. Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 I think the only thing that has kept me away is that some reviews say it is a soft plastic and the longevity comes into question. A couple said it ripped easily and that worries me a little. I don't sight fish often and a lot if the time will just toss a lure where it feels right. Sometimes it pays off with a nice bass, others times I feet northerns. That scares me a little too pay that much for a northern chew toy. Edited: of course I know they are soft plastic, but what I ment was it in itself (the material) doesn't hold well.. we all know those trailers that are GREAT, but a couple strikes in and it's time to replace. Quote
hatrix Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 If your looking for a bluegill type of glide or just BG profile I can't recommend a S-Song enough. Yea they cost a little bit of money but they are a flat out catching machine. Chop your retrieve and they just can't stand it. The amount of glide it has for such a small bait is impressive. You can get a good 2' side to side. You can retrieve it any way you want and it will get them. A giron is much cheaper but is a total joke to me. It catches fish and I have bagged a few 5+ on it but it's junk in comparison. It casts like total garbage and you have to crawl it to keep it from rising not to mention IMO any glide it has is almost nonexistent. For lots of these northern lakes and ponds where bluegill is what's for dinner that profile is hard to beat for catching the big girls. Quote
hotdogin Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Jackall says the msrp will be $39.99 and the different line ties are actually for weights so you can adjust the float/ sink rate. Slowly trying to get in to swimbaits. Will definitely get one of these. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 I think the only thing that has kept me away is that some reviews say it is a soft plastic and the longevity comes into question. A couple said it ripped easily and that worries me a little. I don't sight fish often and a lot if the time will just toss a lure where it feels right. Sometimes it pays off with a nice bass, others times I feet northerns. That scares me a little too pay that much for a northern chew toy. Edited: of course I know they are soft plastic, but what I ment was it in itself (the material) doesn't hold well.. we all know those trailers that are GREAT, but a couple strikes in and it's time to replace. What bait are you talking about here,Matt's?I was referring to his HARDgill bait. I think you might be thinking about the SOFTgill he offers. It is soft but that adds to the realism. Using mend it on the spots it tears will make it last a lot longer. I have 2 of the 5" and 1 of the 4". They're still going strong. As for fish with teeth well that's part of the game honestly. I know anytime I tie on a swimbait that there is a chance I might lose a $25+ lure. Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 What bait are you talking about here,Matt's? I was referring to his HARDgill bait. I think you might be thinking about the SOFTgill he offers. It is soft but that adds to the realism. Using mend it on the spots it tears will make it last a lot longer. As for fish with teeth well that's part of the game honestly. I know anytime I tie on a swimbait that there is a chance I might lose a $25+ lure. I was looking at the U2 soft, but see the hardgills now. I know if mend it, but never have used it myself. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 It works great on any soft plastic. You can repair whatever you want. Worms,craws,ect ect You can even create baits by fusing 2 different ones together. Quote
Brnnoser6983 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 I literally just watched the video.. Yeah next TW order I might just pick up a bottle of that and a Matt Lure. I have been waiting until my taxes come in to get my rod, and than order all the fun extras. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 7, 2015 Super User Posted February 7, 2015 Well here are a few tips that I was given when I got into trying swimbaits from a respected member. 1- buy baits that are proven to work 2- only buy a few and learn those inside/out 3- don't get discouraged. Leave your other rods at home and only take your swimbait setup. 5 Quote
hatrix Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Well here are a few tips that I was given when I got into trying swimbaits from a respected member. 1- buy baits that are proven to work 2- only buy a few and learn those inside/out 3- don't get discouraged. Leave your other rods at home and only take your swimbait setup. Thats it right there. Don't short your self trying to be cheap and get a bait because it was cheap. That might be ok with other lures but swimbaits are not the same. There is a reason this bait costs $50-100 and its a good reason. You get what you pay for. This is a quality over quantity type of fishing. Quote
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