Blues19 Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 We all know Kinami is/was owned by Gary Yamamotos son and the baits were pretty much identical except for a few colors and baits like the Nories Bug. Did Kinami not do as well as Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits so they just stopped making them? I wanted to get a pack of Palm Trees a few months ago to try out, so I could spend a few bucks less than getting a pack of Fat Ikas, just to give them a try. Couldnt find any Kinami at Bass Pro. Went online and looked all over. Went on their facebook page and the newst post was from 2013 and the Kinami Baits website takes you to GYCB website. When did they merge or just stop making the Kinami? How did I miss it? Quote
TorqueConverter Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 I thought the Palm Trees and Psycodads were exclusive to Kinami and then later became GYCB products indicating some sort of shifting of Kinami baits over to GYCB. The Kinami stuff has been taken off the shelves and sold to outlet stores like Overstock Baits ect. If you're looking for cheap Palm Trees, Overstock Bait a& Tackle does a $1.99 sales once and a while and the Kinami baits are usually on sale. They currently are selling the Kinami stuff for $3.99. 1 Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted January 31, 2015 Super User Posted January 31, 2015 About last April they started being discontinued and out at TW BPS and other places. I snatched quite a few for $1.99 at OBT like TorqueConverter mentioned. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted January 31, 2015 Super User Posted January 31, 2015 Also they sell just the skirt portion for cheap. I bought a few packs of them. Ill take a used Hydra when the skirt gets torn/worn bit up cut it off and attach an ika skirt to Hydra body. 1 Quote
BaitMonkey1984 Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Never cared for their baits and I am a die-hard GYCB fan. Not affected. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 31, 2015 Super User Posted January 31, 2015 Never cared for their baits and I am a die-hard GYCB fan. Not affected. Well that just makes you ignorant, because they are the SAME EXACT thing. 5 Quote
Smokinal Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 The Kinami Flash in Junebug was one killer stickbait. Anyone got some they wanna part with? Any sources for them? Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted February 1, 2015 Super User Posted February 1, 2015 The two can not be the same....they have to have suttle differences in them otherwise copyright infringements. And one you get 10 for $9 the other you get 5 for like $6. So they are different but the same...but different. 1 Quote
Blues19 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Posted February 1, 2015 The two can not be the same....they have to have suttle differences in them otherwise copyright infringements. And one you get 10 for $9 the other you get 5 for like $6. So they are different but the same...but different. The PsychoDad was originally a Kinami bait but is now a Yamamoto bait. Which is part of the reason I see it being a merge of the two companies. As well as the fact that the link for the kinami website on their facebook page takes you to the Yamamoto page. But yeah, they are/were different, but the same, but different. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted February 1, 2015 Super User Posted February 1, 2015 The two can not be the same....they have to have suttle differences in them otherwise copyright infringements. And one you get 10 for $9 the other you get 5 for like $6. So they are different but the same...but different. Take a Kinami flash out of a bag and hold it next to a GYCB senko............they are the same bait right down to the "GYB" mark on the "egg sack". The only thing different in the Kinami line was the Norries Bug. Everything else was a Yamamoto product thrown into a Kinami bag. Kinami for a while did have a few exclusive colors that were not available on GYCB's. And to the idiot who thinks they are different because he has two different size grubs...................you do realize GYCB makes or made at one time several different types of single tail grubs. Fat ones, skinny ones, ones with a different tail profile....etc, etc,etc. The two grubs you compaired that are different proabably are different, but thats just because you didn't have the exact GYCB grub that was being put in the Kinami packaging. There is no "copyright" issues, Kinami was Gary's son's business...............allegedly............and the original intent of the Kinami brand was to put GYCB's in places like Wal-Mart, etc at a lower price point. But people ain't stupid. The cost per BAG was lower, but the cost per bait was HIGHER. They must have just said "Screw it, the smoke and mirrors ain't working" because about the time Kinami baits vanished from our local Wal-Marts, the were replaced with GYCB products. 3 Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted February 1, 2015 Super User Posted February 1, 2015 Take a Kinami flash out of a bag and hold it next to a GYCB senko............they are the same bait right down to the "GYB" mark on the "egg sack". The only thing different in the Kinami line was the Norries Bug. Everything else was a Yamamoto product thrown into a Kinami bag. Kinami for a while did have a few exclusive colors that were not available on GYCB's. And to the idiot who thinks they are different because he has two different size grubs...................you do realize GYCB makes or made at one time several different types of single tail grubs. Fat ones, skinny ones, ones with a different tail profile....etc, etc,etc. The two grubs you compaired that are different proabably are different, but thats just because you didn't have the exact GYCB grub that was being put in the Kinami packaging. There is no "copyright" issues, Kinami was Gary's son's business...............allegedly............and the original intent of the Kinami brand was to put GYCB's in places like Wal-Mart, etc at a lower price point. But people ain't stupid. The cost per BAG was lower, but the cost per bait was HIGHER. They must have just said "Screw it, the smoke and mirrors ain't working" because about the time Kinami baits vanished from our local Wal-Marts, the were replaced with GYCB products. Thanks for saying it... I ran outta air just reading it,lol.. But that's been my understanding as well what you stated.. So now folks can know the skinny.. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted February 1, 2015 Super User Posted February 1, 2015 Take a Kinami flash out of a bag and hold it next to a GYCB senko............they are the same bait right down to the "GYB" mark on the "egg sack". The only thing different in the Kinami line was the Norries Bug. Everything else was a Yamamoto product thrown into a Kinami bag. Kinami for a while did have a few exclusive colors that were not available on GYCB's. And to the idiot who thinks they are different because he has two different size grubs...................you do realize GYCB makes or made at one time several different types of single tail grubs. Fat ones, skinny ones, ones with a different tail profile....etc, etc,etc. The two grubs you compaired that are different proabably are different, but thats just because you didn't have the exact GYCB grub that was being put in the Kinami packaging. There is no "copyright" issues, Kinami was Gary's son's business...............allegedly............and the original intent of the Kinami brand was to put GYCB's in places like Wal-Mart, etc at a lower price point. But people ain't stupid. The cost per BAG was lower, but the cost per bait was HIGHER. They must have just said "Screw it, the smoke and mirrors ain't working" because about the time Kinami baits vanished from our local Wal-Marts, the were replaced with GYCB products. This has always been my understanding as well. 1 Quote
Super User gulfcaptain Posted February 1, 2015 Super User Posted February 1, 2015 Hey some like to throw fuel on the fire......I was when I said they are different but the same but different. Only difference really was the packaging, a few colors, and the amount per pack you got. I'm sure there a small differences in a lot of the same worms due to plastic pooring, if you got really technical. But ww2farmer tells ya his opinion straight out. No sugar coating needed. I respect that. And appriciate the info he brings to the discussions as well. 1 Quote
EvanT123 Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 The two can not be the same....they have to have suttle differences in them otherwise copyright infringements. . I'm just wondering how a company would sue itself? 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 1, 2015 Global Moderator Posted February 1, 2015 This thread has been cleaned up of several post that added nothing of any value. If you want to add something useful to the topic, feel free. If you want to add more of the junk that was removed, don't. 2 Quote
Blues19 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Posted February 1, 2015 This thread has been cleaned up of several post that added nothing of any value. If you want to add something useful to the topic, feel free. If you want to add more of the junk that was removed, don't. Thank you Bluebasser. I didnt intend on this topic to start fights. I was just interested if there was a story about what happened with Kinami Quote
plumworm Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 I have no idea how to ask a Mod a question. Would someone please inform me. Thank you. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted February 2, 2015 Super User Posted February 2, 2015 I have no idea how to ask a Mod a question. Would someone please inform me. Thank you. You could try and send a PM, at least it's offline, other than that, I suppose you could create a new topic/question... Quote
TorqueConverter Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 Also they sell just the skirt portion for cheap. I bought a few packs of them. Ill take a used Hydra when the skirt gets torn/worn bit up cut it off and attach an ika skirt to Hydra body. What are you doing that thing is backwards???? I don't know how you can expect to catch fish with it rigged like THAT. Quote
BadBassWV Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 You rig them backwards. When you let it fall slack it will swim away from you. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 2, 2015 Super User Posted February 2, 2015 I have no idea how to ask a Mod a question. Would someone please inform me. Thank you. You can start a new topic and post it on the Forum or send any of us a PM (personal message). What is your question? -Kent Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 2, 2015 Super User Posted February 2, 2015 What are you doing that thing is backwards???? I don't know how you can expect to catch fish with it rigged like THAT. This is the only way I rig a Fat Ika. The bait looks alive. When it is pulled forward the tentacles are pushed back; when it falls on slack line the tentacles flutter up. Quote
Alexander Knoebel Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Go to a local field and stream. I just purchased one. Going to see if it's good. Had it for 2$ if I like it I'm gonna get a bunch and change hooks. Hooks don't look to good. Quote
blckshirt98 Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Kinami and GYCB are the exact same bait, same plastic formula, even the same colors in many instances just named differently by Kinami. Only difference was usually the bait count per package. If I recall correctly the Kinami line was made more for retail at the big box stores like Sports Authority and Wal-Mart. Think of it as a marketing gimmick where GYCB didn't want his flagship line to seem watered down or a cheap budget brand like Mr. Twister. Kinami allowed the GYCB senkos to stay in the specialty tackle stores as a "hobby only" type of lure. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted October 6, 2015 Super User Posted October 6, 2015 http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/kinami.html Quote
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