livetofish28 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I have fished the A rig many times in the past with differnt brands and had succes just I don't think its a very fair element of true fishing. After 4 days of prefishing at a tourny I'm pretty sure you going to atleast have a general idea of where the fish are at so no there is no magic it's kind of common sense why they banned it. Because there is no cadence you have to use with other baits you start stop etc. And for those who said that they double up on jerk baits and crank baits how many times have you done that in one day? Not very common if you get in a school with an A rig you can fill out your bag in 4-5 casts that just doesn't seem fair in a tournament situation especially when 100,000 dollars is at stake. There has to be skill to win that 100,000 dollars not just cast reel repeat. Well considering that filling your bag in 4 to 5 casts is not uncommon when you get into a school of fish that are biting. I have limited out on a dropshot in a few casts. Is that cheating? I thew the A-rig on the last trip i made quite a bit in schooling fish and didn't catch a thing on it and another member on this forum can verify that as he was on the boat with me. It takes skill with any bait to catch fish. I have caught fish when adjusting the cadence of a A-rig adding pauses or snaps of the rod tip. IF you don't like the rig fine more for me to fish. you do your thing I will do mine. RANT OVER!!! tight lines Andrew Quote
bearcatdad26 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Crank baits don't look like a whole school of natural baitfish. A rig requires no skill you cast reel repeat. Specific way of acting, no if a bass sees a school of baitfish and its a easy meal it's going to eat those. how many other baits can you catch 3 fish on at once ? That wins a tourny some days, not fair at all. Matthew it is called a jerkbait with 3 hooks. Quote
Mass Bassin' Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 i'm on the fence about the whole thing. I agree that they are just another tool but my friend brought up some valid points about why they should be banned. Quote
tbone1993 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I enjoy using them when they're working. When they arent its like musky fishing which I'm not a huge fan of. Hours of running around tossing a heavy lure reeling your but off. Will I be fishing it where it is legal, yes. Will it be in my hand all day? No. Quote
Jtrout Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Haven't used them but I'm gonna pick some up. Here in md u can only use 2 hooks. Quote
livetofish28 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Haven't used them but I'm gonna pick some up. Here in md u can only use 2 hooks. Put a hooked bait on the back wire and then a hooked bait on the bottom one and then cut the hooks off of the jig hooks on the rest of the baits so you still have the profile with only 2 hooks so it is legal tight lines Andrew Quote
Matthew2000 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Matthew it is called a jerkbait with 3 hooks.. No way I never knew I only have 40+ jerkbaits. You exposed me to the true meaning of life. I can die peacefully because you opened the doors to happiness for me. I don't what I would have done if you never told me that. Thank you you are a true inspiration. God bless you. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Well considering that filling your bag in 4 to 5 casts is not uncommon when you get into a school of fish that are biting. I have limited out on a dropshot in a few casts. Is that cheating? I thew the A-rig on the last trip i made quite a bit in schooling fish and didn't catch a thing on it and another member on this forum can verify that as he was on the boat with me. It takes skill with any bait to catch fish. I have caught fish when adjusting the cadence of a A-rig adding pauses or snaps of the rod tip. IF you don't like the rig fine more for me to fish. you do your thing I will do mine. RANT OVER!!! tight lines Andrew you do realize when you stop reeling with an A rig it dive bombs straight down? And no limiting out with the drop shot is much different. You have to actually work a drop shot. Not reel straight. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 If everyone can have one its fair but it is not a magical fish catcher. I threw one on Wylie all day with the bait fish matched on the swim baits. My buddy was throwing a 3xd and smashing them but i couldn't catch a thing. Who were you fishing with ? Quote
livetofish28 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 you do realize when you stop reeling with an A rig it dive bombs straight down? And no limiting out with the drop shot is much different. You have to actually work a drop shot. Not reel straight. Yup I do in fact schools of bait dive and dart all the time. Some people even yo-yo A-rigs for this reason. There are guys who drag A-rigs along the bottom. There is more to fishing the rig than just cast reel and repeat. I am finished discussing this topic. Andrew 1 Quote
bassinbrady03 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 i'm on the fence about the whole thing. I agree that they are just another tool but my friend brought up some valid points about why they should be banned. Same I don't know what to think. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Same I don't know what to think.. I see it like someone using 5 bats in baseball or three balls in football. It just gives you more chances to hit/score/hookup. Quote
t4bama Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 . I see it like someone using 5 bats in baseball or three balls in football. It just gives you more chances to hit/score/hookup. I wanna see you run down a football field with three footballs lol 2 Quote
JGBassinAL Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I have fished the A rig many times in the past with differnt brands and had succes just I don't think its a very fair element of true fishing. After 4 days of prefishing at a tourny I'm pretty sure you going to atleast have a general idea of where the fish are at so no there is no magic it's kind of common sense why they banned it. Because there is no cadence you have to use with other baits you start stop etc. And for those who said that they double up on jerk baits and crank baits how many times have you done that in one day? Not very common if you get in a school with an A rig you can fill out your bag in 4-5 casts that just doesn't seem fair in a tournament situation especially when 100,000 dollars is at stake. There has to be skill to win that 100,000 dollars not just cast reel repeat. You can fill out your bag in 5 casts with any bait if you are on a big enough school of fish. Like everyone has said, you still have to know how and where to fish it. These past couple of months on Pickwick it is literally almost the ONLY thing you could catch fish on. I have seen two 30 lb. bags be weighed in and me and my partner have been on a consistent 20-24 lb. bag for the past two months. Every single fish on the a-rig, and you can bet every single good bag being weighed in at the tournaments on Pickwick have came off the a-rig. It just produces big fish this time of the year. I caught my PB 10 lb 1 oz. LM on the a-rig about a month ago. If everyone can use an a-rig then I see no problem with it. I also have no problem with them being banned from tournaments. The only problem I have with the a-rig is when the extra hooks hook into the side of the fish. And btw I have doubled up one time ever on the a-rig. It doesn't happen all the time like you seem to think. 2 Quote
JGBassinAL Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I wanna see you run down a football field with three footballs lol . I see it like someone using 5 bats in baseball or three balls in football. It just gives you more chances to hit/score/hookup. Or swing 5 bats at one time. I promise, you could hit a lot better with just one bat... Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I have spent extensive time with the arig the past few years. I have learned how to correctly fish it. Most people think just as you do, they just chunk and wind. There are days that you can catch fish doing that, but that is NEVER the most efficient way to fish it. I have fished numerous tournaments that the arig was allowed in and never heard the first complaint about it. If it's legal for anyone to use, then it's not unfair, your the only one to blame for not throwing it. The most important factor is still being around winning fish. If you aren't around big fish, dynamite won't work. It's funny that everyone claims anyone can win tournaments on the arig, but when I look at weekly tournament winners, it's the same guys as before. They may have caught them on the arig, but they are still better at finding fish and getting the to bite. Go look at basschamps results. See if you recognize the same names on top. If anyone could do it and it took no skill, why wouldn't just anybody be winning these tournaments? 1 Quote
OK Bass Hunter Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 It's just another tool in the bag. It's not a magic bullet. If they wanna ban it in tournaments. That's their prerogative and I have no problem with it. It's up to everyone's personal preference. I have a few that have never hit water yet that I plan on trying out just to see. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 You can fill out your bag in 5 casts with any bait if you are on a big enough school of fish. Like everyone has said, you still have to know how and where to fish it. These past couple of months on Pickwick it is literally almost the ONLY thing you could catch fish on. I have seen two 30 lb. bags be weighed in and me and my partner have been on a consistent 20-24 lb. bag for the past two months. Every single fish on the a-rig, and you can bet every single good bag being weighed in at the tournaments on Pickwick have came off the a-rig. It just produces big fish this time of the year. I caught my PB 10 lb 1 oz. LM on the a-rig about a month ago. If everyone can use an a-rig then I see no problem with it. I also have no problem with them being banned from tournaments. The only problem I have with the a-rig is when the extra hooks hook into the side of the fish. And btw I have doubled up one time ever on the a-rig. It doesn't happen all the time like you seem to think. I wonder why the bite falls off when the water warms up? Quote
Logan S Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 It always seems like the most vocal opponents are those with least amount of actual experience fishing it. To be completely honest, I didn't like the idea of it at first....But I decided that I wanted to at least learn how to use it so I didn't get beat by it. Since then I've become indifferent, if it'll work I use it just like anything else. Also realize that the major tours banned it for public image purposes...Not because it's some magical or brainless fish catcher. 1 Quote
HookdUP Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 This post asked how people felt about the bait and everyone that says they like it or have no issue with it get bashed ... :/ Quote
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