Super User new2BC4bass Posted January 22, 2015 Super User Posted January 22, 2015 Like many I prefer to wait for new models to come out so I can buy my gear at a great discount. Or I buy used. Wish I had someone to fish with so I could try to impress them with my new gear.  In my particular case I'd have about 1/3rd my current gear (or less) if I lived in an area where fishing could be considered at least decent. As it is new gear is the only thing that keeps me going out. Most of the time I go to a local river. When there I am not fishing.....simply practicing my casting and trying new gear. Catching a fish is an unexpected bonus. One that could be considered a near miracle. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted January 22, 2015 Super User Posted January 22, 2015 Like many I prefer to wait for new models to come out so I can buy my gear at a great discount. Or I buy used. Wish I had someone to fish with so I could try to impress them with my new gear.  In my particular case I'd have about 1/3rd my current gear (or less) if I lived in an area where fishing could be considered at least decent. As it is new gear is the only thing that keeps me going out. Most of the time I go to a local river. When there I am not fishing.....simply practicing my casting and trying new gear. Catching a fish is an unexpected bonus. One that could be considered a near miracle. I'm kind of the same way. Where I am, it's all about catfishing with zebcos and ugly stiks. I enjoy having nice new stuff just so I can go out and enjoy it for myself. It adds a little something extra. Quote
DTack Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Use and do what makes you happy, or what you have the most confidence in really. I fish out of a slightly older bass boat that is 18' long with a 150. It works well for what I want it to do. If money weren't an issue I would have a 20 foot boat with a 250 but it does what I need it to do. It has the gen 2 lowrance hds units on it. I don't see a need (yet) to upgrade that technology. Those units show me everything I need to see. It really just comes down to a personal judgement for me if I feel that the newer product/technology is significant enough to justify a new purchase. I use higher end rods by no means the most expensive because that is important to me. I use high end line because that is important, and I use high end lures because that is important in my confidence. My baitcast and spinning reels are mid-range because I don't feel there is enough increase in the product itself to upgrade them. If a new amazing reel came out that was incredibly comfortable, I would consider selling off some old reels, but as of now, everything seems about par with what was out say, 8-9 years ago. Hope this makes a little sense. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted January 22, 2015 Super User Posted January 22, 2015 Im good with my 25+ abus rods a diff story Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 23, 2015 Super User Posted January 23, 2015 I am an opportunist. Â So if I see it, like, and it's on sale, I might jump on it. Â Otherwise, I keep my eyes open for last years latest greatest gear clearenced out. Â There are some exceptions, if it is a set price piece of equipment I want, I save my money and wait. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 23, 2015 Super User Posted January 23, 2015 I can understand an enthusiast wanting the latest gear, I more enthused about catching fish. Â I may buy something on a whim but for the most part I'm pretty content with what I have. Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 23, 2015 Super User Posted January 23, 2015 Planned obsolescence.  Used by manufacturers to have you buy up to the next generation of products.  What you have now was once the "best and greatest" ever made.  Now you need to upgrade to have the "best and greatest" ever made.  Marketing ploy that some companies take to the extreme by no longer supporting the older products.  Need to look for an example? Try L O W R A N C E. 1 Quote
crankbank Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I actually look forward to new stuff coming out so I can take advantage of the clearances.   Same for me. I can think of only one rod in my lineup that was purchased at MSRP,  I will either wait for a big clearance or sale. The only high end reels that interest me are those strictly from Japan, but that is more for a '2nd kind of cool' factor.  As for electronics, I think I would only upgrade for a larger screen or feature not found on my finders (SI/360/Structure Scan/etc.).  Quote
travis23 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I'm a brand name kind of person, and that's how I was raised. We didn't have anything, off brand. That's one of the things about my childhood I wish I didn't carry today. The mentality that you have to have the newest and best. Unfortunately I still carry my roots lol I just bought a Hudd gill today and had waited til 12pm to order. I don't know why? I dont need that right now, but man they look GREAT!! Quote
Poolshark Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I look for value, not just meaning a good deal, but also stuff that will give me the most return for my money. Ive kept my bantams, calcuttas and c3s for over a decade in good condition and then finally realized the performance gap from old to new was tremendous. It was time to upgrade. It's not necessarily brand name, but the brands track record for durability, parts availability and hopefully one day resale value are what I look for. Quote
Poolshark Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Also, I try to find the close out models and get them cheaper then msrp. Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 no wife, no kids, no drinking habit...go for it Quote
GANGGREEN Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 I'm one of those guys who think it's borderline insane to have the latest and "greatest" all the time. I'm finally at a time in my life when I can afford nice things and to travel some and I'm sick and tired of hearing, "geez, it must be nice" from guys who have wasted their money their entire lives on stupid new products that they didn't need, and who simply can't afford to travel or buy a new pickup or boat because they've never made a single sacrifice in their life.  Most of the stuff in my boat is at least 5 or 6 years old and many of my rod/reel combos are far older than that, though I'll admit to having made a fairly serious commitment to upgrading some stuff this year. I've added a new boat, new sonar and equipment last year and I've already added 6 new rod/reel outfits this winter and all of them are a bit higher quality than what I'm used to. I suspect that I'll see a substantial jump in productivity and effectiveness in this new equipment because it's substantially better than the stuff I had been using. Many of the guys who replace gear every single year as the new models are announced probably see little, if any, improvement in function.   Quote
daiwatws Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I have a thing for JDM reels.. Hmm maybe a tws version of the Z2020 Daiwa.I will buy US market reels too.. While waiting I bought a lews team lite and trying to find a daiwa zillion tws 9:1 in stock somewhere. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 26, 2015 Super User Posted January 26, 2015 None of my stuff is the latest or newest. I just buy stuff that I want. Which in the world of fishing is way too much. I'm a one of those who say you can't take it with you. My bills are current and if I die tomorrow I'll of went out happy. Okay that's a lie. It's winter and I wouldn't of been fishing. 3 Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Posted May 20, 2018 Been away for bad health conditions. Heart & blockages.  So now I am active. Money is no object !!  I told the surgeon. Put in the best Medicare has !! He did. 6 stints. Pacemaker. Defibrulator with 2 levels of shocking my heart to pump again. New Honda Accord. Same great wife of 50 years. Life is good in my 1985 Lowe & 1988 Evinrude.    Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted May 20, 2018 Super User Posted May 20, 2018 On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2015 at 11:38 AM, lmbfisherman said: deleted Quote
Super User Sam Posted May 20, 2018 Super User Posted May 20, 2018 New, it is called "Planned Obsolescence."  Started in the auto industry back in the 50's and has been expanded to all industries, even the food industry.  "New and Improved" has a federal government FDA definition for food items. Not much change is necessary to use the term so it is thrown around by the manufacturers. This is also done when the amount in the package is reduced so consumers will not notice the shrinkage.  Fishing industry companies always want something that is "New or Improved" to hook us.  Change the color of the reel; put holes in the handles and reduce the weight by a 100th of an ounce; add stronger brakes; add a bearing for no real reason; make a manufacturing change to your favorite line formula, no matter how small with no impact; add scent to plastics; or do something or introduce a new model, type, or color to get us to take the bait.  Check out the past ICAST web pages for the new items being introduced each year.  Do we really need them? Of course not. But the Bait Monkey is hungry and we want to feed him. We want to have that new reel and take it home and play with it. We want to take that new crankbait out of the box and feel it. We want to expand our terminal tackle with a new profile weight.  In other words, we become our prey and we take the bait!!!!  No go to your favorite tackle shop and buy something!!!!!  Quote
OnthePotomac Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 I have been retired for over 20 years and everything I own is from family gift cards blessings and big sales. I still have my first three nice reels, Curado 100B's from 13 years ago. They really take care of the old soldier. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 20, 2018 Super User Posted May 20, 2018 On 1/21/2015 at 9:36 AM, cyclops2 said: Â Am I being too critical ? Â Â Buying new electronics just because there is a new release ? Â Buying the latest releases of fishing gear just to buy it ? Yes you are being too critical, but you have a right to be as critical or not critical as you like, just like everyone has the right to spend their hard earned (or not hard earned) money on anything they like. I've personally being involved in sporting goods retailing for a long time, so I see the man behind the curtain, and the sausage making. Most of my equipment (fishing, cycling. tennis and softball mostly) is tried and true. I check out the latest and greatest, and only every so often do I find something that makes me think "I gotta get that ASAP". But when someone walks into the shop, they are buying something cause that's how I make a living. Quote
LCG Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 Fishing is something that I have grown to love. It's a passion for me. I enjoy being outdoors and around nature. It can be as cheap or costly as you want. To each their own.  I started with zebco to ugly stick to fenwick and now to St Croix. The fish don't care, but I feel the difference and I am willing to pay for it. Not necessarily the latest greatest but there is something to be said for quality. There are lots of quality bang for your buck products out there too.  My upgrading has also been more of a fine tuning to the techniques I prefer to fish. Right tool for the job so to speak.  I fish from the bank, no boat. Maybe a kayak someday   1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted May 20, 2018 Super User Posted May 20, 2018 Latest and greatest is a scam. I love high end gear but just because there is a newer model does not make it better. My mid 2000 sol, fuego''s are just two examples. I look for the older models now half their original msrp. The original megabass slant bridge white python is considered by most the best version they ever made. Can't find one so I got the c-40 model which I still think is fantastic. I enjoy nice gear but I feEl the latest is not always the greatest and that idea is marketing working against your common sense. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 21, 2018 Super User Posted May 21, 2018 On 1/21/2015 at 10:30 AM, Preytorien said:  I ride in a road cycling club here in Central IN. There are always those couple of guys who've always got the latest $15K race Tour De France bike. One or two of them don't make much fuss about it, they just enjoy the technical aspect of having the newest technology available. But then a couple of the will flat out look down their nose at you because your ride is 3yrs old and only cost $8K....yes...that's a thing. Those kinds are irritating. I love it when us "inferior" riders put em' in their place.  I know the type well. I still ride my Italian steel road bike with 8 speed down tube shifters from the mid 90s. The group I ride with know, but every so often a couple of guys with Dogmas or other insanely above top of the line bikes show up, and give me the "oh poor you" looks before the ride starts, not so much after. The funny thing is we are one of the largest bike dealers in the North East, I can make a phone call and be riding the latest and greatest for between free and cost, I just choose not to. Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Posted May 21, 2018 I now find that everything is needlessly computerized. Just to say it is more reliable. A computerized Safety Pin !! I kid you not. I saw a electronics show about molecular motors And devices.  I guess they will be selling computerized toilet paper soon. Quote
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