FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 I want to use a 5/o offset hook on my MH moderate berkley lightning rod (casting). what do you think is the lightest lb test I can get away with using if I choose to use mono? I was thinking 17# stren, but what would you use? Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Depends on where you're fishing. Structure, cover etc. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 Depends on where you're fishing. Structure, cover etc. lets say I'm fishing an average amount of cover and structure, not really concearned with that but moreso will the rod and line be strong enough to allow the heavier hook to penetrate the fish (with a good hookset ofcourse). Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 I wouldn't be using mono with a moderate action rod. Just me. I'd probably use 15# fluoro or a little higher depending on cover 1 Quote
Alpha Male Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 you can "get away with" 8-10lb if you want to. in reality I use 12lb and didnt lose a fish all year last year. 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I'd be going with braid to try and make up for some of the rods moderate action. Mono has a fair amount of stretch and that with a moderate action will require a darn good hookset to really drive the hook home. Especially if it's a thicker hook and most are in the 5/0 size. Braid has no stretch and all the power from your hookset will go to the hook. Instead of mono stretching and taking away from some of that power. You can always tie on a leader for fishing other techniques were some stretch can be beneficial. 2 Quote
papajoe222 Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 The very least I would go with using a 5/0 hook would be 12lb. If it's a flipping hook,17lb. A light wire,maybe 8-10lb. This is for use with a M/H Rod with a fast tip. If your, rod has a moderate tip, I'd go 17lb. as a starting point. You can get away with using a Rod with a moderate tip for worm fishing, but keep in mind that between the stretch of mono and the flex in the rod, you're going to need to adjust hour hook-set or you won't be able to drive that hook in past the barb. Light wire hooks, skin hooking the worm and short casts will all up your odds. That being said, you may want to consider using braid. Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 The lightest test is determined by your rod and reel. Check out the rod's specifications and go two pounds lower. As for the reel, depends on a spinning or baitcaster. You know you can go with a lower test with a spinning rig. Just be ready for some line twist. Quote
Super User Solution gulfcaptain Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Solution Posted January 20, 2015 10lb and above should be fine as long as you're fishing with sharp hooks. If it's dull it doesn't matter what size line you use. Hook size is hook size. If it's sharp it's going to penetrate much easier then if it was dull. But I rarely ever use anything larger then a 4/0 depending on brand. 1 Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 The lightest test is determined by your rod and reel. Check out the rod's specifications and go two pounds lower. As for the reel, depends on a spinning or baitcaster. You know you can go with a lower test with a spinning rig. Just be ready for some line twist. the rod recomends no more than 20# and the reel recomends no more than 17# so I'm going with 17# thanks. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 The very least I would go with using a 5/0 hook would be 12lb. If it's a flipping hook,17lb. A light wire,maybe 8-10lb. This is for use with a M/H Rod with a fast tip. If your, rod has a moderate tip, I'd go 17lb. as a starting point. You can get away with using a Rod with a moderate tip for worm fishing, but keep in mind that between the stretch of mono and the flex in the rod, you're going to need to adjust hour hook-set or you won't be able to drive that hook in past the barb. Light wire hooks, skin hooking the worm and short casts will all up your odds. That being said, you may want to consider using braid. I plan on using the MH moderate rod with 17# mono and a 4 or 5/o offset worm hook to throw super flukes. do you think that will fit the bill? Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 A Moderate action rod with mono is going to make for some interesting adventures with hooksets with a heavy hook. Yes it will work but be prepared to lose a few fish. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 Im guessing its safe to assume that higher pound tests of mono are harder to push to the point of streching. thats why I'm choosing heavy mono, I dont want to use braid in this really clear water I fish and I dont own any fluro (dont know if I care to). I dont think setting a 4 or 5/o hook with some heavy mono will be hard at all. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 A Moderate action rod with mono is going to make for some interesting adventures with hooksets with a heavy hook. Yes it will work but be prepared to lose a few fish. i'll have to see what happens but I'm going to use heavy mono rather than lighter mono with hopes of lowering the chances of that even more. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 10lb and above should be fine as long as you're fishing with sharp hooks. If it's dull it doesn't matter what size line you use. Hook size is hook size. If it's sharp it's going to penetrate much easier then if it was dull. But I rarely ever use anything larger then a 4/0 depending on brand. this is the bottom line right here^ and in my case yes the hooks are sharp, so I dont see it going wrong. Quote
Ozark_Basser Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 you can "get away with" 8-10lb if you want to. in reality I use 12lb and didnt lose a fish all year last year. I'd say it depends on cover. Trying to pull a fish out of anything with 8-10# test is going to get you broke off more times than not. especially with mono. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 true, thats why I'm going with 17#^^^ and for the specific technique I'm refering to I wouldn't use it in cover or structure i felt it wouldn't be able to handle. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I would be more worried about getting a rod that's not moderate action, than what pound test I should be using for a worm hook. Like recommended before, I would use braid to help make up for that soft rod. Quote
georgeyew Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 I have the same Berkley rod and I use 15lb Big Game. No problems setting the hook. I don't lose many fish. 1 Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 Is the rod composite or graphite? composite Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 I have the same Berkley rod and I use 15lb Big Game. No problems setting the hook. I don't lose many fish. nice haha I doubt I'll have any problems either. I think people hype how much strech mono has and what is too little or too much when it comes to rods. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I can tap a nail in using a screwdriver or I could use a hammer. There's a right tool for the job imo. Quote
FunkJishing Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 I have a fast action MH casting rod that I could use instead of the moderate one, but I'd still be using 17# mono until I buy some braid. I'm unaware of any good braided lines. I want a braid that is round, not flat. I hate flat braided lines. any braid you recomend? Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I can't say that I've ever noticed if it's flat or not but I use Power Pro or Suffix 832 if they don't have the correct power pro I'm looking for. 1 Quote
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