jacob95 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Finally started my first rod build! I've had the blank sitting in my room for 3 months and all the other stuff for about 5 and I've finally got the time to start. I'm building a light duty flipping stick on a Batson RX7 IFS904. It will be spiral wrapped with a 12" fiberglass tube handle. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Looks pretty good. IMO you may want to move the first guide closer to 0*. I think you'll have a line stacking issue as it is. Whenever you do a spiral wrap pull out a good amount of line and retrieve it with some weight resistance to check the line lay. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 So put it at like 20 degrees or so DVT? Also when I pull out some line and retrieve it in what do I need to look for? Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 So put it at like 20 degrees or so DVT? Also when I pull out some line and retrieve it in what do I need to look for? No, put it at 0°.....On top of the rod. On some really heavy builds, to eliminate line stacking, I've actually put the first guide somewhat on the negative side. I'll line up the edge of the first guide with the center of the reel, opposite the direction I'm transitioning. Quote
papajoe222 Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 please explain what 'line stacking' is as i am considering a spiral wrap on my current build. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 please explain what 'line stacking' is as i am considering a spiral wrap on my current build. If I understand correctly it's the line stacking to one side of the reel when you reel in. But don't hold me to that. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 If I understand correctly it's the line stacking to one side of the reel when you reel in. But don't hold me to that. That is correct. Typically only happens when heavy loads are retrieved. On this musky build, you can see what I posted about up in my first post. This rod is used to cast and retrieve lures in excess of 16oz. If the stripper guide was placed at 0, the line would stack up on the right side of the reel. By offsetting it left, the right side of the guide ring is at the centerline of the rod, allowing for even line distribution to the reel. On my bass builds, I don't even transition around with guides. The stripper is at 0 and the next guide is at 180. The line touches the blank, but I haven't noticed any ill effects. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 So since this is a bass build I could set the first one to 0° and then continue with my 30°, 90°, and 180° on my guide train? Since the heaviest I'll use this for is maybe 1.5 Oz but even that is doubtful. Love the boat by the way!!!! Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 Yea, maybe 0°,45°,90°,135°,180. That would give a smooth transition. Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 My Edge rods start about 15* and my Megabass starts at 0. Both work fine but Im still not a fan of a spiral wrap. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 Okay so I just switched them around. I went with 0°, 60°, 120°, and 180°. Im waiting for some of the vinyl tubing and I'll ditch the tape and put some of the rubeer bands on and check for line stacking. Then I will get to wrapping. So far it seems to be a really nice blank. Seems to be pretty sensitive and it balances well about 2 inches in front of the reel seat. We'll see how it does after its wrapped and finished. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 My Edge rods start about 15* and my Megabass starts at 0. Both work fine but Im still not a fan of a spiral wrap.Why is that if you don't mind me asking? Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I don't see any gains in a spiral wrap and I personaly think they are asteticly unpleasing. I do love the carbon fiber grip and think it ads in sensitivity. Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 Ah I see. Thank you! I'm glad I went with the fiberglass grip. I think it looks very nice. Quote
Batson Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 I don't see any gains in a spiral wrap and I personaly think they are asteticly unpleasing. I do love the carbon fiber grip and think it ads in sensitivity. There are so many advantages to spiral wrapping a rod. You would have to go out and fish with it to see. One of the main turn offs of spiral wrapping isn't performance, but rather the aesthetics of the rod. Most can't get over what it looks like.. lol Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 There are so many advantages to spiral wrapping a rod. You would have to go out and fish with it to see. One of the main turn offs of spiral wrapping isn't performance, but rather the aesthetics of the rod. Most can't get over what it looks like.. lol I think he owns 2 spiral wrapped rods Batson but just doesn't like them. Quote
Batson Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 I think he owns 2 spiral wrapped rods Batson but just doesn't like them. Hm.... That is interesting.. I guess everyone has their own opinion lol!! Quote
jacob95 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 I'm interested to see how I will like my rod spiral wrapped. I can clearly see the benefits in it because you aren't fighting the rod and I also find it aesthetically pleasing. 2 Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I'm interested to see how I will like my rod spiral wrapped. I can clearly see the benefits in it because you aren't fighting the rod and I also find it aesthetically pleasing. I'm sure you'll love it it's a great looking build! Quote
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