Sonik Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Well, I searched and didn't find any topics on this reel. Looks like a blue accented Tatula Type-R but with 12 bearings and $20 less. Still picks up 34 IPT, Magforce-Z, etc it looks like. I'm a Lew's guy and went shopping a while back for something in the $125-175 range for a reel for a new flipping stick and saw the Arachnid for $179. I imagine Cabela's will put it on sale for $150 at some point. I'm not one of the guys that gets into the guts of a reel and knows whether one is good or bad based off of what factory it came out of in China or Korea so I don't know where Cabela's cut corners on the reel. Any thoughts on this reel on its own merits and versus the standard Tatula lineup? Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 I own a Cabela's Tournament ZX (A Lexa Platform reel) They are made in Korea (Where your Lew's are made) It is smooth and palms well at 7.5 oz. I would not hesitate to buy an Arachnid. I'm guessing they don't charge quite as much because people see Daiwa as a 'Premium Brand' and so they are willing to pay more, while they don't see Cabela's as a 'Premium Brand' and so they don't want to pay as much, even if thy are the same. Quote
Sonik Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 I love the ZX rods. I wish I had bought those instead of the *** Blacks. 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 Why not just get a Daiwa online for $110-120? 2 Quote
fisherrw Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Why not just get a Daiwa online for $110-120? x2 Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 I love the ZX rods. I wish I had bought those instead of the *** Blacks. First I heard this. ZX Rods made by Daiwa too? Quote
Sonik Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 So the question was about the reel on its own merits and againt the standard Tatula lineup including the Type-R. Quote
pbizzle Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Yall are all asking why don't you buy a Daiwa, well this is a Daiwa, but made exclusively for Cabelas. The arachnid has Daiwa written across the side, and even the knobs have the Daiwa logo on them. To the OP, I'd really look into it. Compare it to a standard Tatula and a Type R, and see which model meets your needs the best. I'm sure they're all great reels. Quote
Super User MCS Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 So the question was about the reel on its own merits and againt the standard Tatula lineup including the Type-R. If your not worried about the color or look of the reel being the arachnid. Then I would look for a tatula or tatula type r as they can be for from 100-150 right now new in box by some retailers. check out reds gear. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 Yall are all asking why don't you buy a Daiwa, well this is a Daiwa, but made exclusively for Cabelas. The arachnid has Daiwa written across the side, and even the knobs have the Daiwa logo on them. To the OP, I'd really look into it. Compare it to a standard Tatula and a Type R, and see which model meets your needs the best. I'm sure they're all great reels. Yes, we know that but he's talking about buying one at $179 when you can get a non Cabelas branded Tatula type R for $110-120. I would rather save myself $60-70. 2 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 I don't know. I heard that Cabelas logo makes every fish you catch grow a pound once you put it in the livewell. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 19, 2015 Super User Posted January 19, 2015 I don't know. I heard that Cabelas logo makes every fish you catch grow a pound once you put it in the livewell.Maybe we should verify that with Mike McClelland?? Lol Quote
Sonik Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 It's the extra letters in the name in the logo. The sensitivity of the line and rod directly transfer that weight directly to the fish. Or something. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost. Believe it also has bearings on the level wind, as it is a 12 bearing reel vs the Tatula and Tatula Type R at 8 Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost. I am very good friends with some people that own and operate a local tackle shop in our area. Their cost on a regular Tatula is $68 dollars and they are not even in the upper tier for discounts. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I have always liked Cabela's house branded "Daiwa's" I have a couple of the current Prodigy's now. When this reel goes on sale, or I have gift cards, I'll give it a look. 1 Quote
Sonik Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 I have always liked Cabela's house branded "Daiwa's" I have a couple of the current Prodigy's now. When this reel goes on sale, or I have gift cards, I'll give it a look. I've looked at the current Prodigy. I thought about it for when it goes on sale. Do you know if it's Magforce or Magforce-Z? My catalogs say Z but the site doesn't. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 20, 2015 Super User Posted January 20, 2015 I've looked at the current Prodigy. I thought about it for when it goes on sale. Do you know if it's Magforce or Magforce-Z? My catalogs say Z but the site doesn't. Don't know, and don't care. Whatever it has works fine for me. 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted January 21, 2015 Super User Posted January 21, 2015 I'm not sure how this one will feel different but it is lighter than the Tatula and has more bearings and truth be told, the specs look closer to the Zillion than the Tatula, maybe some elements of both in that reel. The one thing I can say is the older Cabelas reels made by Daiwa are great, I still have an all gray Prodigy that is almost exact to an Advantage and it works like it is new, excellent reel. The same can be said about the older Tournament ZX spinning reel, it is the same as a Daiwa Tierra spinning reel with the two biggest differences being the Tierra has 2 corrosion resistant ball bearings while the ZX has the same number without the corrosion resistant and the ZX uses a power "T" knob while the Tierra has a regular square septon knob but that is it. I got the Prodigy for $79 on close out and the ZX for $40 and that one I could cry, I wish I would have bought 4 or 5 of those, that spinning reel performs so well that I doubt I'll ever get another deal like that. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted January 21, 2015 Super User Posted January 21, 2015 I'm not sure how this one will feel different but it is lighter than the Tatula and has more bearings and truth be told, the specs look closer to the Zillion than the Tatula, maybe some elements of both in that reel. The one thing I can say is the older Cabelas reels made by Daiwa are great, I still have an all gray Prodigy that is almost exact to an Advantage and it works like it is new, excellent reel. The same can be said about the older Tournament ZX spinning reel, it is the same as a Daiwa Tierra spinning reel with the two biggest differences being the Tierra has 2 corrosion resistant ball bearings while the ZX has the same number without the corrosion resistant and the ZX uses a power "T" knob while the Tierra has a regular square septon knob but that is it. I got the Prodigy for $79 on close out and the ZX for $40 and that one I could cry, I wish I would have bought 4 or 5 of those, that spinning reel performs so well that I doubt I'll ever get another deal like that.It's 100% identical to the Tatula Type R, except for 2 bearings on the levelwind, 2 more bearings in the knobs, and it's anodized blue. It's nowhere near the zillion, aside from the frame. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 21, 2015 Super User Posted January 21, 2015 It weighs 7.6oz which is what the tatula type R weighs. There's really nothing zillion about it at all. It's a tatula with blue cc knob and spool. They've added 2 more bearings to the handle and the same for the worm gear to take the total count to 12. I've done the same with all mine and it ran me $1 for the 4 bearings and 15 minutes of my time. Quote
pbizzle Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Yes, we know that but he's talking about buying one at $179 when you can get a non Cabelas branded Tatula type R for $110-120. I would rather save myself $60-70. Nothing wrong with that. I nearly bought a regular Tatula the other day. It was just the way it was put made it sound like You were saying that it was a lesser quality reel than the Daiwa. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted January 22, 2015 Super User Posted January 22, 2015 It's 100% identical to the Tatula Type R, except for 2 bearings on the levelwind, 2 more bearings in the knobs, and it's anodized blue. It's nowhere near the zillion, aside from the frame. Are you saying the Type has a bearing in each knob from the factory? I don't have an R model but I thought the factory bearing count was the same on the Tatula and the Type R. I have a hard time believing they would spec 2 bearings in the level wind on this reel, but if the R already has 2 in the knobs to begin with I guess they'd have to. My bet would have been 4 in the knobs. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted January 22, 2015 Super User Posted January 22, 2015 Are you saying the Type has a bearing in each knob from the factory? I don't have an R model but I thought the factory bearing count was the same on the Tatula and the Type R. I have a hard time believing they would spec 2 bearings in the level wind on this reel, but if the R already has 2 in the knobs to begin with I guess they'd have to. My bet would have been 4 in the knobs. The Type R and the standard Tatula both come with one bearing and one bushing under the knob. That's why I said "2 MORE bearings in the knobs." They took out the bushings and replaced them with bearings. They also removed the bushings from the worm gear (levelwind) and replaced those with bearings. This is an upgrade that a lot of us with Tatula's have already done for ourselves; very simple to do. Quote
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