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But how far can u cast that weight with your heavy spool CT100 and your Crucial? I am getting a little over 20 yards casting an unweighted Trick Worm with a Shimano Scorpion XT-1000 w/a Yumeya BFS spool, a Loomis MBR782 and 10# Power Pro.

IMHO, a full spool on a stock 50 Shimano is still too heavy for casting really light lures.

I promise ya more than 30 yds with a Trick Worm!

  • Super User
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The difference between 1/8 oz and 3/16 oz is 50%. If you are talking about total lure weight that includes weight, hook and soft plastic that weighs 1/8 oz, in total few 50 & 100 size bait casting reels with 6 lb line can perform good.

If you are only talking the 1/8 oz weight and add the hook and soft plastic ( total 1/4 oz) and use 8 to 10 lb line several size 50 & 100 bait casting reels can perform good.

Tom

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I promise ya more than 30 yds with a Trick Worm!

I believe you! I thought that I was a big shot casting a Trick Worm 20+ yards with a 2 power Loomis, XT1000 w/shallow spool and 10# Power Pro until I found out yesterday that I can cast farther with a full spool Conquest 50 with 10# Big Game. In reality, an unweighted Trick Worm should be no problem for a experianced caster using a 50 size Shimano with the proper rod and line.
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Been fishing for Trout all winter on a BPS micro lite casting rod with a crappie max might lite reel and 4# line. Got the reel at the catalog return for $30.

This combo costs half as much as a used old Liberto.

Sure, it's not as boutique as what y'all are used to, but it will toss down to 1/10oz further than I've needed from the bank. I've been casting 1/8oz Kastmaster spoons farther than people next to me on their ultra light spinning setups.

  • Super User
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A trick worm is 5.45 grams '3/16' without a hook. Add a hook and you are almost at 1/4oz. Add 1/8 weight and it's almost 3/8oz. A lot of 50 and 100 sized reels can throw a 1/4oz without any issue. Using the right rod helps too of course.

  • Like 3
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Im going to be trying this with a revo elite 8 on a 1970's 5'6" fenwick HMG  4 power rod.  The fenwick power rating from the era is far different than the #power ratings now and that rod feels almost as light as my current model ML HMG spinning rod. looking forward to it.

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A trick worm is 5.45 grams '3/16' without a hook. Add a hook and you are almost at 1/4oz. Add 1/8 weight and it's almost 3/8oz. Ap lot of 50 and 100 sized reels can throw a 1/4oz without any issue. Using the right rod helps too of course.

I also throw a zoom 6 inch lizard weightless. Not easy but effective

  • Super User
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The lizard is 6.5 grams without hook. Over 1/4oz with. A medium rod should cast it pretty good.

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That's what I have it though. I'm not opening poster. But rippin lips you just answered my biggest Question. Weight of a lizard haha

  • Super User
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I have a 6.5 foot medium light  Shimano Compre rated for 1/8th ounce lures. I have lost so many bass with this rod and a Shimano Curado with 10 lb test that I no longer use the rod.

  • Super User
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FYI: reels do not cast lures...rods do ;)

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What bearings would u recommend for chronarch 51e, link please

Stock, flushed and oiled with 1 drop RemOil. Have the reel Super Tuned next and see if you still need more. If yes, a pair of Boca ABEC5 Ceramic Hybrids are as fast as any reel can use @ $9.95ea. I have them or you can order direct. 

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FYI: reels do not cast lures...rods do ;)

X2 Without the right rod, all these other points are moot. The sweet spot usually lies near the middle of the labeled lure weight range. To cast an actual 1/8 oz or weight the rod should be rated for something like 1/16-1/4. If you're putting a trailer on an 1/8oz jig you're casting near or over 1/4oz. and can probably look a power higher.  

  • Super User
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All I know is that I have several combos that can handle a #5 Shad Rap (3/16 oz.) just fine.  However the bozo doing the tossing can't do a true 1/8 oz. worth a darn.  Finally broke down and bought a true finesse reel over the winter.  Hoping this bozo can now do 1/8 oz. with ease....relatively speaking.  :teeth3:

  • Super User
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I've casted a bare 3.5g jig head. It's really tough to do. Distance and accuracy were not there. Honestly I'd never use a bait that light so it doesn't matter but I wanted to try it.

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I've casted a bare 3.5g jig head. It's really tough to do. Distance and accuracy were not there. Honestly I'd never use a bait that light so it doesn't matter but I wanted to try it.

If you really want to cast 1/8th 30+ ft without feathering the spool, first off at least a medium light or even a medium (roll casted) in moderate action rod is necessary for accuracy.  Reel, light line, preferrably 6 lb or less.  Spool, ideally shallow and spool bearings are recommended to be flushed and lightly oiled.  Braking systems- magnet based is smoothest, but dual braking will have more stopping force added on the first half of the cast as well.

  • Super User
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If you really want to cast 1/8th 30+ ft without feathering the spool, first off at least a medium light or even a medium (roll casted) in moderate action rod is necessary for accuracy. Reel, light line, preferrably 6 lb or less. Spool, ideally shallow and spool bearings are recommended to be flushed and lightly oiled. Braking systems- magnet based is smoothest, but dual braking will have more stopping force added on the first half of the cast as well.

I was using a PX68 which is a finesse reel with a shallow spool. #15 braid and abec 7 spool bearings. Mounted on a medium light 7'2 rod. It handles it but more practice would obviously help. I spent maybe 10 minutes fooling around. As I stated I'll never have a need to go that light.

  • Super User
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Check out the Shimano Brenious. You'll have to order it straight from Japan, but its designed specifically for lightweight baits. 

  • Super User
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I was using a PX68 which is a finesse reel with a shallow spool. #15 braid and abec 7 spool bearings. Mounted on a medium light 7'2 rod. It handles it but more practice would obviously help. I spent maybe 10 minutes fooling around. As I stated I'll never have a need to go that light.

 

I honestly doubt I would go down to 1/8 oz. for bass fishing.  For me it is more an attempt to use a baitcast reel for such fish as crappies, perch and even bluegills rather than one of my spinning rods.  Also since so many people feel it is easy to cast 1/8 oz. and below on a baitcast reel, I feel it is something I should also be capable of doing.  However, I hope my PXL Type R can handle 1/8 oz. (with me doing the casting) or I will be getting a major inferiority complex.  :cry4:

  • Super User
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The reel, spooled with 6 or 8 lb line can handle it, the rod will play an important role.  This is why I had one built for my Presso.  Get you a good rod and forget about inferiority complex!

  • Super User
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The reel, spooled with 6 or 8 lb line can handle it, the rod will play an important role.  This is why I had one built for my Presso.  Get you a good rod and forget about inferiority complex!

 

 

Let's hope my Falcon Expert Light rated 1/16-3/8 oz. can make me look good.  :teeth:

 

How do you like that Presso?  Were 2 for sale not long ago.  Took awhile to get sold.  I put a Presso spool in one of my Sols.  Haven't done much testing with it yet.

  • Super User
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I actually have not used the Presso yet.  I will have more answers come May.

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