Super User Jeff H Posted March 18, 2015 Super User Posted March 18, 2015 Banned? Ah geez....why? Did I miss something? Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 18, 2015 Super User Posted March 18, 2015 But how far can u cast that weight with your heavy spool CT100 and your Crucial? I am getting a little over 20 yards casting an unweighted Trick Worm with a Shimano Scorpion XT-1000 w/a Yumeya BFS spool, a Loomis MBR782 and 10# Power Pro. IMHO, a full spool on a stock 50 Shimano is still too heavy for casting really light lures. I promise ya more than 30 yds with a Trick Worm! Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 18, 2015 Super User Posted March 18, 2015 The difference between 1/8 oz and 3/16 oz is 50%. If you are talking about total lure weight that includes weight, hook and soft plastic that weighs 1/8 oz, in total few 50 & 100 size bait casting reels with 6 lb line can perform good. If you are only talking the 1/8 oz weight and add the hook and soft plastic ( total 1/4 oz) and use 8 to 10 lb line several size 50 & 100 bait casting reels can perform good. Tom Quote
John G Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I promise ya more than 30 yds with a Trick Worm!I believe you! I thought that I was a big shot casting a Trick Worm 20+ yards with a 2 power Loomis, XT1000 w/shallow spool and 10# Power Pro until I found out yesterday that I can cast farther with a full spool Conquest 50 with 10# Big Game. In reality, an unweighted Trick Worm should be no problem for a experianced caster using a 50 size Shimano with the proper rod and line. Quote
chelboed Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Been fishing for Trout all winter on a BPS micro lite casting rod with a crappie max might lite reel and 4# line. Got the reel at the catalog return for $30. This combo costs half as much as a used old Liberto. Sure, it's not as boutique as what y'all are used to, but it will toss down to 1/10oz further than I've needed from the bank. I've been casting 1/8oz Kastmaster spoons farther than people next to me on their ultra light spinning setups. Quote
kingmotorboat Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I have a *** that can really throw a 1/8 oz tungsten bullet with a trick worm Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 18, 2015 Super User Posted March 18, 2015 A trick worm is 5.45 grams '3/16' without a hook. Add a hook and you are almost at 1/4oz. Add 1/8 weight and it's almost 3/8oz. A lot of 50 and 100 sized reels can throw a 1/4oz without any issue. Using the right rod helps too of course. 3 Quote
Alpha Male Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Im going to be trying this with a revo elite 8 on a 1970's 5'6" fenwick HMG 4 power rod. The fenwick power rating from the era is far different than the #power ratings now and that rod feels almost as light as my current model ML HMG spinning rod. looking forward to it. Quote
kingmotorboat Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 A trick worm is 5.45 grams '3/16' without a hook. Add a hook and you are almost at 1/4oz. Add 1/8 weight and it's almost 3/8oz. Ap lot of 50 and 100 sized reels can throw a 1/4oz without any issue. Using the right rod helps too of course. I also throw a zoom 6 inch lizard weightless. Not easy but effective Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 The lizard is 6.5 grams without hook. Over 1/4oz with. A medium rod should cast it pretty good. Quote
kingmotorboat Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 That's what I have it though. I'm not opening poster. But rippin lips you just answered my biggest Question. Weight of a lizard haha Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 I have a 6.5 foot medium light Shimano Compre rated for 1/8th ounce lures. I have lost so many bass with this rod and a Shimano Curado with 10 lb test that I no longer use the rod. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 FYI: reels do not cast lures...rods do Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 What bearings would u recommend for chronarch 51e, link please Stock, flushed and oiled with 1 drop RemOil. Have the reel Super Tuned next and see if you still need more. If yes, a pair of Boca ABEC5 Ceramic Hybrids are as fast as any reel can use @ $9.95ea. I have them or you can order direct. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 FYI: reels do not cast lures...rods do X2 Without the right rod, all these other points are moot. The sweet spot usually lies near the middle of the labeled lure weight range. To cast an actual 1/8 oz or weight the rod should be rated for something like 1/16-1/4. If you're putting a trailer on an 1/8oz jig you're casting near or over 1/4oz. and can probably look a power higher. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 All I know is that I have several combos that can handle a #5 Shad Rap (3/16 oz.) just fine. However the bozo doing the tossing can't do a true 1/8 oz. worth a darn. Finally broke down and bought a true finesse reel over the winter. Hoping this bozo can now do 1/8 oz. with ease....relatively speaking. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 I've casted a bare 3.5g jig head. It's really tough to do. Distance and accuracy were not there. Honestly I'd never use a bait that light so it doesn't matter but I wanted to try it. Quote
fishangdood Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 I've casted a bare 3.5g jig head. It's really tough to do. Distance and accuracy were not there. Honestly I'd never use a bait that light so it doesn't matter but I wanted to try it. If you really want to cast 1/8th 30+ ft without feathering the spool, first off at least a medium light or even a medium (roll casted) in moderate action rod is necessary for accuracy. Reel, light line, preferrably 6 lb or less. Spool, ideally shallow and spool bearings are recommended to be flushed and lightly oiled. Braking systems- magnet based is smoothest, but dual braking will have more stopping force added on the first half of the cast as well. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 If you really want to cast 1/8th 30+ ft without feathering the spool, first off at least a medium light or even a medium (roll casted) in moderate action rod is necessary for accuracy. Reel, light line, preferrably 6 lb or less. Spool, ideally shallow and spool bearings are recommended to be flushed and lightly oiled. Braking systems- magnet based is smoothest, but dual braking will have more stopping force added on the first half of the cast as well. I was using a PX68 which is a finesse reel with a shallow spool. #15 braid and abec 7 spool bearings. Mounted on a medium light 7'2 rod. It handles it but more practice would obviously help. I spent maybe 10 minutes fooling around. As I stated I'll never have a need to go that light. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 Check out the Shimano Brenious. You'll have to order it straight from Japan, but its designed specifically for lightweight baits. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 I was using a PX68 which is a finesse reel with a shallow spool. #15 braid and abec 7 spool bearings. Mounted on a medium light 7'2 rod. It handles it but more practice would obviously help. I spent maybe 10 minutes fooling around. As I stated I'll never have a need to go that light. I honestly doubt I would go down to 1/8 oz. for bass fishing. For me it is more an attempt to use a baitcast reel for such fish as crappies, perch and even bluegills rather than one of my spinning rods. Also since so many people feel it is easy to cast 1/8 oz. and below on a baitcast reel, I feel it is something I should also be capable of doing. However, I hope my PXL Type R can handle 1/8 oz. (with me doing the casting) or I will be getting a major inferiority complex. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted March 19, 2015 Super User Posted March 19, 2015 The reel, spooled with 6 or 8 lb line can handle it, the rod will play an important role. This is why I had one built for my Presso. Get you a good rod and forget about inferiority complex! Quote
oldschoolbasser Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 My 15-2500C's works pretty well for light baits and worms. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 20, 2015 Super User Posted March 20, 2015 The reel, spooled with 6 or 8 lb line can handle it, the rod will play an important role. This is why I had one built for my Presso. Get you a good rod and forget about inferiority complex! Let's hope my Falcon Expert Light rated 1/16-3/8 oz. can make me look good. How do you like that Presso? Were 2 for sale not long ago. Took awhile to get sold. I put a Presso spool in one of my Sols. Haven't done much testing with it yet. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted March 20, 2015 Super User Posted March 20, 2015 I actually have not used the Presso yet. I will have more answers come May. Quote
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