Chris186 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I fish druing the spawn, but I dont target bass on beds. Its not really my thing. Guys do it, and thats fine. For me personally, I have a problem with it when it comes to tournaments. Now, my analogy might sound crazy, but here it is anyway. I think of bed fishing in touneys like this: I wouldnt want someone kidnapping my 8 month pregnant wife, throwing her in a dark van, driving around with her for 7 hours and letting her go miles away from her bed, completely unaware of where she is. May sound completely crazy, but I dont care. Its essentially the same thing. 1 Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 I fish druing the spawn, but I dont target bass on beds. Its not really my thing. Guys do it, and thats fine. For me personally, I have a problem with it when it comes to tournaments. Now, my analogy might sound crazy, but here it is anyway. I think of bed fishing in touneys like this: I wouldnt want someone kidnapping my 8 month pregnant wife, throwing her in a dark van, driving around with her for 7 hours and letting her go miles away from her bed, completely unaware of where she is. May sound completely crazy, but I dont care. Its essentially the same thing.  So how do you feel when a tournament fisherman pulls Mama from her babies two months after the spawn and keeps her hostage for the day before releasing her miles away from her family? What about when some "bucket fisherman" murders her?  It's almost too bad that Bambi was a deer and not a bass!    Anthropomorphism: an·thro·po·mor·phism n. Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena. 2 Quote
Chris186 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 So how do you feel when a tournament fisherman pulls Mama from her babies two months after the spawn and keeps her hostage for the day before releasing her miles away from her family? What about when some "bucket fisherman" murders her?  It's almost too bad that Bambi was a deer and not a bass!    Anthropomorphism: an·thro·po·mor·phism n. Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena. I think you need to do some research on what happens when the bass spawn if you think that "mama" hangs around with her "babies" 2 months after they hatch.   Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 29, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 29, 2015 I think you need to do some research on what happens when the bass spawn if you think that "mama" hangs around with her "babies" 2 months after they hatch.   I believe he was likening it to a real life situation... Similar to yours, which I think both are sound logic, and an interesting discussion for sure. I believe his situation was meant to be hypothetical... Even if it is not 100% realistic. 1 Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 I think you need to do some research on what happens when the bass spawn if you think that "mama" hangs around with her "babies" 2 months after they hatch.    You're going to try to compare a female bass on a bed to your pregnant wife, lament her being "kidnapped", plus all of the other ........  And then you take my completely tongue in cheek reply and suggest that I do some research?  Wow! Care to tell us how much it costs you to belong to PETA, ASPCA, & HSUS? 2 Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 I believe he was likening it to a real life situation... Similar to yours, which I think both are sound logic, and an interesting discussion for sure. I believe his situation was meant to be hypothetical... Even if it is not 100% realistic.  I was likening it to the fantasy land he obviously lives in. It's going to come as a rude shock to some that Bambi really doesn't speak English, or that a spider named Charlotte doesn't really speak to a pig. 3 Quote
Chris186 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 You're going to try to compare a female bass on a bed to your pregnant wife, lament her being "kidnapped", plus all of the other ........  And then you take my completely tongue in cheek reply and suggest that I do some research?  Wow! Care to tell us how much it costs you to belong to PETA, ASPCA, & HSUS First, I told you it may sound crazy, but I dont care. I just expressed my opinion on the subject, like the OP asked.   Second, your reply didnt come off " tounge in cheek" to me.   Im not going to have a battle of witts against an unarmed man. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 Bunch of PETA morons came to brown county, ind. in the early 90's running around in a vastly overpopulated (deer ) state park, during a state sanctioned hunt... Running around with deer antlers attached to their heads, claiming, they hoped they would be shot.. Attempting to spook the woods, so deers would run away... Yup, ran those animals right to standing hunters, nothing like pushing deer, eh? No one was injured, several were arrested though, lol... 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 29, 2015 Super User Posted January 29, 2015 Biologists maintain that most cow bass spend 'hours' rather than days, on any one nest.Furthermore, one cow will typically deposit eggs in the nests of several buck bass, you might say, she's a runaround who plays the field  A cow on the bed is neither hungry nor aggressive, and a lure placed in the nest will normally be seized by the buck. Yeah she's visible, but she's also more uncatchable now, than any other time of year (the genius of Mother Nature).Recall that Mac Weakley spent hours trying to get Dottie to strike once, but failed (foul-hooking is something else).  Happily, there's a generous overlap in the pre-spawn and spawn seasons,and most trophy-class bass that are taken during the spawning season are bass in pre-spawn mode.  Roger Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted January 30, 2015 Super User Posted January 30, 2015 I fish druing the spawn, but I dont target bass on beds. Its not really my thing. Guys do it, and thats fine. For me personally, I have a problem with it when it comes to tournaments. Now, my analogy might sound crazy, but here it is anyway. I think of bed fishing in touneys like this: I wouldnt want someone kidnapping my 8 month pregnant wife, throwing her in a dark van, driving around with her for 7 hours and letting her go miles away from her bed, completely unaware of where she is. May sound completely crazy, but I dont care. Its essentially the same thing. It is difficult to understand how you can engage in fishing at all if hauling fish around in a live well troubles you so. Fishing is a blood sport. We do it for our pleasure, knowing that some fish will die in the process. When I compare your argument to Lund Explorer's the evidence does not support your claim of superior wit. This topic will always stir emotion. No need to be nasty about it. 2 Quote
Chris186 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 It is difficult to understand how you can engage in fishing at all if hauling fish around in a live well troubles you so. Fishing is a blood sport. We do it for our pleasure, knowing that some fish will die in the process. When I compare your argument to Lund Explorer's the evidence does not support your claim of superior wit. This topic will always stir emotion. No need to be nasty about it. Its not hauling around just any fish, its hauling around a fish that is trying to spawn. Thats why I dont fish tournaments during the spawn. As for Lund Explorer, he fired first. Infact, all he has done in this thread is quote people and bash them. But, its the internet, and we all know how that goes. Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 30, 2015 Super User Posted January 30, 2015 Its not hauling around just any fish, its hauling around a fish that is trying to spawn. Thats why I dont fish tournaments during the spawn. As for Lund Explorer, he fired first. Infact, all he has done in this thread is quote people and bash them. But, its the internet, and we all know how that goes. So you just ignore the scientific evidence that proves your theory wrong? 3 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 30, 2015 Super User Posted January 30, 2015 I treat my wife pretty much the same as I do a bass or any other fish. Â One of the true pleasures of my life is sticking a hook in her mouth and ski dragging her back to the boat. Â Who says marriage isn't a blood sport, it's PETA approved. 2 Quote
Chris186 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 So you just ignore the scientific evidence that proves your theory wrong? What theory might this be? All I did was give my opinion on bed fishing, and got attacked for it. I never said bed fishing hurt the spawn in any way. Never said it had any affect on the bass population. I just personally dont think its right to purposely catch a fish trying to lay eggs, then throw her in your livewell only to let her go miles away from where she was trying to spawn. Obviously, everyones opinions are different, but you know what they say-opinons are like a-holes, everybody has one and some people are one. Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 30, 2015 Super User Posted January 30, 2015 What theory might this be? All I did was give my opinion on bed fishing, and got attacked for it by one guy, and now by you. I never said bed fishing hurt the spawn in any way. Never said it had any affect on the bass population. I just personally dont think its right to purposely catch a fish trying to lay eggs, then throw her in your livewell only to let her go miles away from where she was trying to spawn. Obviously, everyones opinions are different, but you know what they say-opinons are like a-holes, everybody has one and some people are one. I aint attacked no one! I asked a question? You answered it above...have nice day Quote
Chris186 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 CD1542, on 30 Jan 2015 - 10:13 AM, said: What theory might this be? All I did was give my opinion on bed fishing, and got attacked for it. I never said bed fishing hurt the spawn in any way. Never said it had any affect on the bass population. I just personally dont think its right to purposely catch a fish trying to lay eggs, then throw her in your livewell only to let her go miles away from where she was trying to spawn. Obviously, everyones opinions are different, but you know what they say-opinons are like a-holes, everybody has one and some people are one.  I aint attacked no one!I asked a question?You answered it above...have nice day  You are right, and I apologize. I guess im still in defensive mode. I fixed it for you 2 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 30, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 30, 2015 Lets play nice. I think this is a good healthy discussion on something I'd never thought about before. Quote
Suspendingjerk Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I am actually surprised by all the responses claiming it's 'wrong' or they 'feel' wrong bedfishing. As someone above said, fishing is a blood sport. As is hunting. I personally enjoy bedfishing and take full advantage of it when the spawn comes around... And don't lose a wink of sleep once the day is over. 3 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 31, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 31, 2015 I am actually surprised by all the responses claiming it's 'wrong' or they 'feel' wrong bedfishing. As someone above said, fishing is a blood sport. As is hunting. I personally enjoy bedfishing and take full advantage of it when the spawn comes around... And don't lose a wink of sleep once the day is over. Can you clarify what you mean by 'blood sport'? I'm not a huge hunter, just because I haven't found any good area around me for it, which I'll have to look into if there is any new public land around.. Just another reason i want my land/pond already!!! 1 Quote
Suspendingjerk Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Can you clarify what you mean by 'blood sport'? I'm not a huge hunter, just because I haven't found any good area around me for it, which I'll have to look into if there is any new public land around.. Just another reason i want my land/pond already!!!You participate knowing good and well that the results of your actions fishing can and will cause the death of fish. Although I do everything in my power to prevent it. 1 Quote
mjseverson24 Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 I disagree completely that fishing is a blood sport... I practice catch and release on all fish that I catch... when i am in tournaments I go the extra mile to ensure I can release the fish in the best possible shape... fish care is held paramount to me when I go fishing...  Mitch 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 31, 2015 Super User Posted January 31, 2015 Fishing for sport whether it's immediate catch and release or hours later if in tournament, the act of hooking them probably does put stress on them. Â It isn't natural for the fish to be on the end of a line, that's our sport. Â I've seen very few bass go belly up (gut hooked for sure) in a normal fight, yet I don't know what happens to all of them once they swim off 100% of the time. Â I do think it's a blood sport, all the care in the world does not insure a longer life for them. Fishing is enjoyment for us, I'm not sure how much the fish enjoys it. 2 Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted January 31, 2015 Super User Posted January 31, 2015 I disagree completely that fishing is a blood sport... I practice catch and release on all fish that I catch... when i am in tournaments I go the extra mile to ensure I can release the fish in the best possible shape... fish care is held paramount to me when I go fishing...  Mitch  I can understand your desire to distance yourself from the term, but the fact remains that when you consider all of the bass fishermen involved in bass fishing, it is indeed a Blood Sport. Even with all of the protections you try to provide, no one can insure 100% survivability. 1 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted January 31, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 31, 2015 I disagree completely that fishing is a blood sport... I practice catch and release on all fish that I catch... when i am in tournaments I go the extra mile to ensure I can release the fish in the best possible shape... fish care is held paramount to me when I go fishing... Mitch Even with you Livewell treatments, and other Precautions, its been scientifically tested by InFisherman. That tournament live well fish have a delayed mortality (5 days later) upwards of 50% 1 Quote
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