Super User scaleface Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 I use to make good solid hook sets with Texas rigs only to have the fish come off . Id get the bait back in and the worm would be balled at the bottom of the hook. So I have learned different ways to secure the bait. Parasite clip , barrel swivels and pieces of wire are what I have used and they all work well. I like using barrel swivels the best. How do you guys do it ? Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 The Lord All Mighty in it´s infinite wisdom when on the eighth day said: "Let there be bass fishin´" and created the South also provided us southerners with, what appears to be an almost infinite supply, of thorny vegetation. Just snip a thorn from a bush, tree or if you are from more to the south, ( like Texas, Mexico, New Mexico, Arizona or Southern Californy or across the border ) a cactus and run it through the bait and hook eye, trim the excess and there you are. Of course such method is not possible for you northern fellers, so you can use a toothpick. 4 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 I used parasite clips for a while, but it seems the hook bends have gotten (almost imperceptibly?) better and I've had less problems this past year without using anything. 1 Quote
bassguytom Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Small piece of 30lb mono through the hook eye like Glenn posted. 2 Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 Hmm I don't have that problem with the baits I use when using the correct size hook... At least not to the point where it interfered with hook sets. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 I would say the problem aint the bait...it's the hookset...ya slow pulling the trigger! 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 7, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 7, 2015 Its not the hook set. You guys are telling me , that you never had a worm slide down the hook during a hookset . Ive had them slide down on the cast . Quote
Super User gardnerjigman Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 Hmm I don't have that problem with the baits I use when using the correct size hook... At least not to the point where it interfered with hook sets. x2 Quote
RSM789 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 I know that most people don't use them, but I don't have that problem with Mister Twister keeper hooks. The barbs on the point that goes into the front of the worm hold them well without tearing up the worm, even when using thin plastics like Roboworms. I have used these hooks for over 30 years and have never had problems with hook sets or the worm balling up on the hook. It is similar to a shakey head without the weight on the hook. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 7, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 7, 2015 I know that most people don't use them, but I don't have that problem with Mister Twister keeper hooks. The barbs on the point that goes into the front of the worm hold them well without tearing up the worm, even when using thin plastics like Roboworms. I have used these hooks for over 30 years and have never had problems with hook sets or the worm balling up on the hook. It is similar to a shakey head without the weight on the hook. I use the Owner keepers also. They work pretty good. You can never have too many tricks. I like the heavy momn one. I will definately try that .. Quote
RSM789 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 I use the Owner keepers also. They work pretty good. You can never have too many tricks. I like the heavy momn one. I will definately try that .. I bought some of the Owner keepers and found that the screw on portion hung on to the worm a little too well for my liking. Different lake, different cover, they may be a better choice depending on the circumstances. I like & use most of Owners other hooks, including their wacky model. Quote
a1712 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Grip pin hook, drop of glue, tooth pick through hook eye, etc.. Brian. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 The absolute best way I've found to prevent this is the Owner twist lock hooks as others have already suggested. I have however made my own "keeper" for smaller thinner wire straight shank worm hooks that also work very well, for me at least. I've done this on Owner (pictured) and Gamakatsu straight shank worm hooks, it works equally well on both. I think I actually prefer the Gamakatsu hooks in this particular situation even though I'm more of an overall Owner fan. I prefer the regular point of the Gammy over the cutting point on Owner. It's easy to do yourself, I just wrap a little braid around the shank of the hook and then put the heat shrink tubing over it. The small barbs on the hook shank hold the braid in place (make sure you go over both of them) and then in turn the shrink wrap holds the plastic in place. Cheap, easy, and as I said effective for me. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 7, 2015 Super User Posted January 7, 2015 I use Parasite clips & EWG hooks on Texas rigged baits. Works for me. A-Jay 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 8, 2015 Global Moderator Posted January 8, 2015 Owner twist locks whenever and wherever I can depending on the size of the bait I want to tie. Otherwise I use the skip gap style. Between those 2 there's no need to use any other type of seperate anchor. Mike Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 8, 2015 Super User Posted January 8, 2015 Its not the hook set. You guys are telling me , that you never had a worm slide down the hook during a hookset . Ive had them slide down on the cast . There is one of two things happening, Your hook is to small for the plastic you're using Or you're slow on the hook set Balling up on the cast is a worn out piece of plastic! 3 Quote
Super User Gundog Posted January 8, 2015 Super User Posted January 8, 2015 I use glue. Just one drop at the head of the bait where the hook is inserted and thats all it takes. Also I've found that only gel glue works, the other kind just gets absorbed by the plastic. Only problem is you can't just remove the bait once you have glued it to the hook. But I fish the same places most of the time so this doesn't affect me much. Quote
Matthew2000 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I don't like the baits that you have to do this with for them to stay on a hook. Quote
papajoe222 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I've used and continue to use a variety of methods, but a tooth pick (no cactus 'round here) through the worm and eye of a standard off-set worm hook gets the job done on worms and lizzards. As for a hook style that seems to work very well on beefier plastics like beavers and tubes, the SkipGap has won me over. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 8, 2015 Global Moderator Posted January 8, 2015 I don't do anything other than rig mine up. Never had a problem hooking them as long as I'm using the right hook/line/rod combo. 3 Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted January 8, 2015 Super User Posted January 8, 2015 Hitchhikers, man. Get a whole pack for like $3 and never have a problem again. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted January 9, 2015 Super User Posted January 9, 2015 This I don't do anything other than rig mine up. Never had a problem hooking them as long as I'm using the right hook/line/rod combo. and this. There is one of two things happening,Your hook is to small for the plastic you're usingOr you're slow on the hook setBalling up on the cast is a worn out piece of plastic! If you set the hook well, it won't matter if the plastic slides down the hook. That hook point will go through any plastic worm I've ever used, if it doesn't, you need some new hooks. Quote
Brent Bartman Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I think this a small hook problem combined with a soft hook set. I like big hooks for t rigging I like offset owners in 3/0 -6/0 and when my bait balls up there is still room for the fish. I lay into aT rigged bait to bust the hook through. I l lay into my fish. I reel into him load my rod and extend my arms with my rod at 2 o'clock and set my hook as fast as I can to 10 o'clock and reel him as fast as I can. And if it was in his mouth he is hookedIf I'm using anything bigger than 3/8 oz weight I slow my hook set to prevent from busting his mouth openDon't be afraid to load him up on your rod. you will feel him before he feels you.Bass don't like to spit a lure it seems. If you go to bass pro when they demo lures with no hooks in the tank they want to hold on it . I have seem they fight the fish off the lure to get them to spit it.My 2 cents 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 12, 2015 Author Super User Posted January 12, 2015 I dont have problems with my bait balling up anymore because i learned to peg it. I just wanted to know all the different ways others peg their worms. I still dont believe that some of you have never missed a fish because your worm has balled up. I just dont believe it. I think its happened to KVD , Rick Clunn , Larry Nixon and everyone who has ever fished a texas rig . Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 12, 2015 Super User Posted January 12, 2015 Toothpick through the plastic and eye of the hook. I don't do this as I want to know if I missed a fish or is it structure that caused the "bite." So getting a balled upped finesse worm back tells me that I missed one. 1 Quote
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