ChrisWi Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Looking at getting a Lews Bb-1 for fishing football jigs deep. From what I'm reading online these reels have great casting distance. How hard are these brakes to set? Dont want to get something sometbe disappointed with in a month. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 It´s all in the thumb my man. 2 Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 The die hard Shimano fans live centrifugal breaking. For football jigs, its probably not too bad. They're not extremely hard to set, they are just harder to set in the fly like a magnetic break. Also remember to change out your break shoes to wear them evenly. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 you pop the side plate off, set the brake to 1 or 2 on depending on your thumb, and forget about them. the rest is your thumb and the cast control knob. 2 Quote
bootytrain Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 The die hard Shimano fans live centrifugal breaking. For football jigs, its probably not too bad. They're not extremely hard to set, they are just harder to set in the fly like a magnetic break. Also remember to change out your break shoes to wear them evenly. What are you talking about? It would take years of frequent use to wear down brake shoes even if they weren't properly maintained. Shimano brake blocks are different colors to signify different weights. 1 Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 Football jig fishing, am I better off just getting a reel with magnetic brakes or do the cent brakes give me more casting distance. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 It´s all in the thumb my man. Football jig fishing, am I better off just getting a reel with magnetic brakes or do the cent brakes give me more casting distance. What Raul said. Cent or mag the greatest factor to distance will be the operators skill. Now the DC system from what I read is very beneficial but have no first hand experience with that type. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 What Raul said. Cent or mag the greatest factor to distance will be the operators skill. Now the DC system from what I read is very beneficial but have no first hand experience with that type. I've got a pretty good thumb, stayed away from Cent brakes for a while just because I didnt want to mess with something new, but a lot of newer high end reels are using cent brakes. Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 You will be able to adapt quickly... I guess I should add, I have used Daiwa mag's and Shimano Centrifugal, but I can't imagine you having any problems with the lews either, especially with heavier Jigs.. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 Anyone know if the Bb-1 Pro is worth the money over the Bb-1? Quote
Super User deep Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 The die hard Shimano fans live centrifugal breaking. For football jigs, its probably not too bad. They're not extremely hard to set, they are just harder to set in the fly like a magnetic break. Also remember to change out your break shoes to wear them evenly. Wow. That's all; I'm feeling rather magnanimous. 2 Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 Anyone know if the Bb-1 Pro is worth the money over the Bb-1? Any weight lure 1/4-3/4oz I threw with my BB1 Pro I could throw farther with better control on my CI4. The control isnt bad but just not as good took more thumb(which in turn hurts distance) to keep it in check. On the high end not huge difference but clearly 15'-20' when trying to cast past certain distant objects. I wound up having a few issues with the Pro so it went back. Quote
bootytrain Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Ive got mag, centrifugal, and DC brakes. To me the centrifugal brakes are much more consistent cast to cast meaning that I can hit the same spot pretty much over and over and don't really require much fiddling even when I swap out lures. The Mag brakes don't seem to cast as far and are more touchy and sometimes will backlash out of the blue and more sensitive to the wind. And I definitely have to fool with the mag dial when changing lures. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Centrifugal brakes are efficient because they exert greater/less braking depending on the speed the spool is spinning. Mag brakes are a constant setting. Daiwa's system is a sort of hybrid and works well imo. I prefer cent. braking personally, especially bombing long casts. Mag brakes are ok for flipping , pitching etc. It's all in the thumb either way though. 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 Also remember to change out your break shoes to wear them evenly. Really? Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 Really? Apparently not. I prefer not too mess to much w/my break shoes in the Dual breaking on my Lew's anyways... Quote
dwtaylor Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 What part of Wisconsin are you from? I have a left hand BB1 that I would be willing to let you try out to try to get down the casting. BTW, I like centrifugal brakes better than magnetic brakes. With that said, I primarily fish Shimano reels and that is pretty much what they have in them. Let me know. Thanks! 1 Quote
thehooligan Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Ive tried to like mag brakes, ive gone through 10 daiwas but i always go back to shimanos. Always feels good in my hands, i get maximum distance, less overruns, and best performance in windy conditions. 1 Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 Centrifugal brakes are efficient because they exert greater/less braking depending on the speed the spool is spinning. Mag brakes are a constant setting. Daiwa's system is a sort of hybrid and works well imo. I prefer cent. braking personally, especially bombing long casts. Mag brakes are ok for flipping , pitching etc. It's all in the thumb either way though. Why do you believe mag brakes are a constant setting? Quote
IAY Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Why do you believe mag brakes are a constant setting? Because it exerts a constant magnetic force onto the spool? 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Why do you believe mag brakes are a constant setting? "Constant setting" is poor wording on my part. Obviously the dial allows settings to be adjusted. As I should have said, mag brakes exert a constant braking force throughout the cast based on the setting at the time. Hence, the setting is constant during that particular cast. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 Because it exerts a constant magnetic force onto the spool? The spool is made of aluminum, and there are no other ferrous metal parts on the spool besides the bearing and spool shaft. Where does it apply the constant force. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted December 30, 2014 Super User Posted December 30, 2014 "Constant setting" is poor wording on my part. Obviously the dial allows settings to be adjusted. As I should have said, mag brakes exert a constant braking force throughout the cast based on the setting at the time. Hence, the setting is constant during that particular cast. Sorry but that is not correct. Quote
IAY Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 The spool is made of aluminum, and there are no other ferrous metal parts on the spool besides the bearing and spool shaft. Where does it apply the constant force. The break is still applying a constant force on the inductor cup connecting to the reel. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 The physics are probably more complex but in context of this conversation I stand by my comment. I keep an open mind though. Please expound. Quote
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