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I am fortunate enough to fish a local private pond well stocked with bass. Owner maintains it very well with aerators and plenty of food for bass to eat. He also treats it with some chemical that, according to him, is to keep a certain type of vegetation form taking over the pond. In turn this changes the water to a robins egg blue color. Its very clear to about 2-4 feet. Does this water color change the way the bass see the lure color? If so what colors would fit this pond best? thank you!   

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That blue color is from copper sulfate...............not what I would do, because water + copper sulfate = low grade of sulfuric acid, we use it to burn warts off of dairy cows feet..............but it's his pond so he can do what he wants, I doubt he's hurting anything because it would take a LOT of copper sulfate to turn the pond into acid, but he's also not accomplishing much, other than turning the water blue and padding the pocket of the guy selling him the CS, in order to have the desired and lasting effect on the algae, he'd have to really sock it to the pond, and that would have undesirable side effects for the fish.

 

 But as to your ?'s, If you have 2-3 feet of visibility any color will work, pick one you like. Color selection is often over-stated.

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ok thank you. I wasnt too worried about "whats the best color for xyz.." just needed to make sure it didnt affect the fish's ability to see. thanks again. The fish i have gotten out of the pond seems healthy, and the blue gill are enormous! 

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black colorado spinnerbait! 

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ok thank you. I wasnt too worried about "whats the best color for xyz.." just needed to make sure it didnt affect the fish's ability to see. thanks again. The fish i have gotten out of the pond seems healthy, and the blue gill are enormous!

Bass don't need to see the bait, period.
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Copper sulfate is widely used and is a staple pretty much of pond management. It is not for killing weeds although it might stunt them briefly and kind of knock them down a little. It is used to stop alge blooms like slime. You wasting $ if your trying to use it to kill weeds. We use reward and a surfactant for weeds. In a 8 acre pond we use about a bag every year. I think they are 50# bags.

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When the water is clear or visibility it high, stick to your natural colored senkos, get yourself some green pumpkins, watermelon seed, things like that. If there are bluegill in there, tip the tails chartreuse or buy them already like that. Bluegill pattern squarebills should be a killer also. Bluegill pattern jigs with a small swimbait too, 1/4oz or 3/8oz so it sinks slower then hop it around. I know it sounds weird using a jig to imitate a bluegill but it works, just mess with the cadence, hop it, swim it, whatever it takes. 

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When the water is clear or visibility it high, stick to your natural colored senkos, get yourself some green pumpkins, watermelon seed, things like that. If there are bluegill in there, tip the tails chartreuse or buy them already like that. Bluegill pattern squarebills should be a killer also. Bluegill pattern jigs with a small swimbait too, 1/4oz or 3/8oz so it sinks slower then hop it around. I know it sounds weird using a jig to imitate a bluegill but it works, just mess with the cadence, hop it, swim it, whatever it takes.

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Thank u. That's makes sense. And thank all for the information.

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True , but if you are fishing in clear water, the fish are going to see the lure. So unless the fish are swimming around with their eyes closed your going to need to match your bait as close as you can to whatever the bass are normally eating in that fishery. 

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True , but if you are fishing in clear water, the fish are going to see the lure. So unless the fish are swimming around with their eyes closed your going to need to match your bait as close as you can to whatever the bass are normally eating in that fishery.

Yeah, right.
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Ever caught a blind bass before?

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Half the city ponds I fish are toliet bowl blue.  Neither is an issue to the fish.  The bright side, the pond that has really blue water tends to warm up quicker then the clear water ponds.  I'm guessing the blue water absorbs the heat better.  All your colors should work fine.  Use a lot of green pumpkin, watermelon, bamma bug and do just fine.

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Ever caught a blind bass before?

Yup, bass don't need to see the bait.
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Yes, we've established that. My point is, if you are fishing in clear water, which this appears to be. The bass are going to react better to lures that closely resemble what their used to seeing. Yes on some occasions, the water is so dirty/stained that the bass rely more on smell, or sound to find and eat bait. But in clear water, you need to use something they see and eat everyday because in clear water, sight is a major factor so using lures that closely resemble the bait in the lake, the better chance you have of catching fish.

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I tend to throw the same colors in every place I fish even though I carry almost all of them, but usually I find I start with a Green Pumpkin Shade or something in black, and usually all the various Flakes work well, but I tend to use Translucents when water is clear and almost always go right to a watermelon or Salt and Pepper, but some days Metholinate or Saphire Blue seem to outshine them all. If I am fishing a pond that I know has alot of fish in it, I expect to get a strike within the first few minutes since I am casting to the best spots, so if I do not get bit after trying the natural colors I will usually dip the tail in some chartruese or go to something with flash or bright......Color matters when it matters, and when it does, you know it does, Red Shad is another color that can have it's days.

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I bet it's methylene blue, not copper sulfate - or a mix of the two. They should be able to see fine.

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Yes, we've established that. My point is, if you are fishing in clear water, which this appears to be. The bass are going to react better to lures that closely resemble what their used to seeing. Yes on some occasions, the water is so dirty/stained that the bass rely more on smell, or sound to find and eat bait. But in clear water, you need to use something they see and eat everyday because in clear water, sight is a major factor so using lures that closely resemble the bait in the lake, the better chance you have of catching fish.

 

Whatever you want to believe boss. 

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I bet it's methylene blue, not copper sulfate - or a mix of the two. They should be able to see fine.

Sounds like fish tank talk to me.  Only problem if it was methylene blue, it would kill the entire biological system in the lake and would most likely lead to a large fish die off.  Copper Sulfate has a temp affect on plant and algae growth, also will kill small shrimp and crayfish where it was directly sprayed or added. But it doesn't affect the biological bacteria in the lake that is needed for proper water chemistry.  

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M-blue will change the color of pee, too. Lol.

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