ChrisWi Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 My local rivers have about 2 - 3 feet of visibility. I love drop shotting but haven't had much success on it locally. What are some good dirty water baits? Should I inverse the size of my weight to make more noise? Thanks. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted December 21, 2014 Super User Posted December 21, 2014 I think that is enough visibility. The advantage to going to a heavier weight would be that it would get down quicker and not be affected by current as much. I fish in lakes, so current really isn't a consideration for me. Fishing in a river, it might or might not be. If you go with a heavier weight and stay with a light line, you will be popping off weights all the time. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 I think that is enough visibility. The advantage to going to a heavier weight would be that it would get down quicker and not be affected by current as much. I fish in lakes, so current really isn't a consideration for me. Fishing in a river, it might or might not be. If you go with a heavier weight and stay with a light line, you will be popping off weights all the time. I do a lot of casting the dropshot though then dragging it and shaking it. So that's why I question the heavier weight for more sound Quote
Crankinstein Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 When the water clarity isn't very good and I still want to drop shot I usually select a brighter color for my bait. The "hot tips" robo worms work really well. Their essentially regular robo worms with a chartreuse tip on the tail. I also use a larger worm too, going from 4 to 6. Another thing you can try is a shorter leader. I generally use long leaders in clear water and shorter ones in murky water. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 When the water clarity isn't very good and I still want to drop shot I usually select a brighter color for my bait. The "hot tips" robo worms work really well. Their essentially regular robo worms with a chartreuse tip on the tail. I also use a larger worm too, going from 4 to 6. Another thing you can try is a shorter leader. I generally use long leaders in clear water and shorter ones in murky water. that makes sense, I fish great lakes tribs so the shorter leader might help immitate goby. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted December 21, 2014 Super User Posted December 21, 2014 The dropshot hooks with the tie-off on each end would be an option...lots of action. Quote
speed craw Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 I have have used a dropshot in what most people would almost considered mud . I use solid BLACK , fish will hold tight to cover if literally on or next to . As far as weight goes generally I use 1/8 - 3/ 16 max . But river fishing everything changes . Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 Sounds like you have sufficient water clarity. Try drifting with a shorter lead on your DS. Use a small (size 1 or 2) EWG worm hook for the plastic, so that you reduce snagging. You will probably have to use a heavier weight to keep your sinker dragging bottom. And use a bait rig type sinker, such as the Gapen Bait Walker, or one of the longer pencil shaped "bottom bouncer" types - again, to reduce hang ups. You might also want to take a look at controlling your boat by "slipping" the river, as opposed to drifting right along with the current. Another Gapen technique. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 Don't miss out on Drop shotting a Sk rage craw on a 2/0 ewg - don't forget to dip the claws ~ ! A-Jay Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 Sounds like you have sufficient water clarity. Try drifting with a shorter lead on your DS. Use a small (size 1 or 2) EWG worm hook for the plastic, so that you reduce snagging. You will probably have to use a heavier weight to keep your sinker dragging bottom. And use a bait rig type sinker, such as the Gapen Bait Walker, or one of the longer pencil shaped "bottom bouncer" types - again, to reduce hang ups. You might also want to take a look at controlling your boat by "slipping" the river, as opposed to drifting right along with the current. Another Gapen technique. I use a worm hook right now. How heavy of a weight would you go? 1/4? Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 Don't miss out on Drop shotting a Sk rage craw on a 2/0 ewg - don't forget to dip the claws ~ ! A-Jay put a tube on there instead. Little trick I found this year. I'm sure you've tried it. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 put a tube on there instead. Little trick I found this year. I'm sure you've tried it. Thanks you & I have Used a tube But this season that Rage Craw was Lights Out ! A-Jay Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 I use a worm hook right now. How heavy of a weight would you go? 1/4? Depends mainly on the current flow. Use whatever weight is necessary to keep dragging bottom - or close to it - while slipping that current. Using the slipping technique you can actually get away with less weight. There are many variables and you just have to experiment. I've gone up to 3/4 oz. in some cases. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 Usually with reduced visibility I try to use a bulkier bait. One of my favorites is a Strike King Baby Rodent. It seems to be pretty effective in water down to about a foot to foot and a half of visibility. I think the added bulk moves more water and really helps them to find it, but it's not so much that it loses it's finesse and subtle appeal. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 Thanks you & I have Used a tube But this season that Rage Craw was Lights Out ! A-Jay I am yet to try it. Used tubes and dreamshots a lot this last year. Fish were eating gobies like crazy. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 I am yet to try it. Used tubes and dreamshots a lot this last year. Fish were eating gobies like crazy. No Doubt, tubes are very effective. But once you D-S the Craw - you might not ever use a tube again . . . . . A-Jay Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 No Doubt, tubes are very effective. But once you D-S the Craw - you might not ever use a tube again . . . . . A-Jay have you tried The Missle Baits drop craws? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 have you tried The Missle Baits drop craws? I have Not - But then again, I may not need to . . . A-Jay Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted December 22, 2014 Super User Posted December 22, 2014 IMO weight is a matter of bottom contact only ... not water clarity. Water clarity is all about the bait ... I used a texas rigged power worm with good success in these conditions. 4-7" Quote
gobig Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 For dirty water try a team davies ventana tearshot. Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 I have Not - But then again, I may not need to . . . A-Jay too stuck on that rage craw? Quote
ChrisWi Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 IMO weight is a matter of bottom contact only ... not water clarity. Water clarity is all about the bait ... I used a texas rigged power worm with good success in these conditions. 4-7" I'm aware of that, the extra weight would be for noise purposes. Quote
MikeinFresno Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I have used beads above the hook to clatter against each other Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Stick a rattle in the plastic Quote
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