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Im new to glide baits but ive been seeing quite a bit about the river2 sea s-waver. Anyone know anything about these baits? Can you fish them in cold water?

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Yes. They excel in cooler water. I use them quite a bit early spring looking for big German Browns. They can be a bit mechanical so play around with and vary your retrieve. These fish hang as tight to the beach and rock bluffs as they can get. I literally softly bounce them off the rock near the bottom so they hit the water soft. Fish are usually on them after a crank or two and they hold up to the abuse.

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S-Wavers are fished like a slow motion jerk bait with a longer pause to allow the lure to glide, turn to one side and stop. If the bass are looking up from deeper water during the cold water period, S-Waver would work, otherwise not a good choice IMO.

Tom

PS, looking up means looking for surface or near surface prey.

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I have done decent with them as of late on a straight steady retrieve. They have a tighter action and that seems to be the ticket. The big wide glides and pauses seem to work better for me in warmer waters. I guess it's kind of like a trap vs a crank bait.

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I actually prefer the River2sea Wide Glide than the S-waver. Maybe the 2 s wavers I purchased were just not a good batch because they do not glide all that great, but the Wide Glide which I just used for the first time last week as my buddy came to visit and he is a big time musky and Pike guy from up North, and his box was full of Musky baits and most of them were some form of glide bait like suicks and I was drawn to the looks of the Wide Glide 120mm since it is not as huge and the bass are just starting to get really active here in Florida the last few weeks and I have used the wide glide floating and suspending 2 times since, 1x in a small pond where the fish were suspended in an area under some bushes and floating weeds in 12' of water, and 1x in a 25 acre private lake which is my favorite this time of year since the 2 spawning flats are right near a breakline that goes from maybe 2-4' to about 10' but kind of gradual and there is submerged vegetation growing all year but now it is thin and in most places you have a few feet to work so the glide baits are my new favorite lure to throw, I also must add, the Rapala Subwalk is more of a subsurface walking lure but it does a bit of a glide and the xr-7 is just the right size for long casts and gets crushed.

 

At the end of the day, you can use a lot of softplastics for gliding, the Zoom Mag Trick worms glide really well, I like to add a nail in the back and use a light hook in the front, also some flukes glide well, any bait that has a flat bottom is good, but key is to get the balancing right at least that is what I am learning....The SK Caffiene shad glides nicely as well and is a heavy fluke so it can be manipulated like he sluggo, or or if you want a inexpensive but quality glide bait, the Rapala Gliding rap is the size of a good size bluegill and the Herky Jerky Jr. By bomber are glide baits designed for Musky and Stripers, but I just put them in my bass bag as they are the size of a decent bluegill and I would imagine will work every bit as good as any other glide bait, but

 

Wide Glide 120-River2sea-9.99, internal paint, quality components, has a nice shimmy after the turn, takes some practice but you can work it rod down or up with the tip to get the gliding action, It is awesome when they miss it, I just keep it going and they often miss it 2-3x but almost always get it on the roll when paused and ready to make the next glide. Fun lure, I like River2sea stuff, just have not been happy with the s-waver but I read that they are like any other lure, maybe 25% are not going to ever run right since they are mass produced on assembly lines overseas like all other plastic baits. I am sure they will work for stripers fished as a swimbait though, they look awesome.

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From the last few weeks.

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From the last few weeks.

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Nice fish! Looks like you have had some good days on the water! What set up are you throwing it on if you don't mind me asking?

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Nice fish! Looks like you have had some good days on the water! What set up are you throwing it on if you don't mind me asking?

It's a custom build 7' 10" XH/F ( more rod than is needed for the 168 honestly but it works), with a 300E and 25lb McCoy copoly. 

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It's a custom build 7' 10" XH/F ( more rod than is needed for the 168 honestly but it works), with a 300E and 25lb McCoy copoly. 

Thanks! What is the ration on your Curado?

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Thanks! What is the ration on your Curado?

6.2

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I use both the 168 and 200 and like them. I prefer the 200 better and here's a couple caught on the 200! You can't beat the price also if you just want to try swimbaits when starting out!!

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Chris, what's the sink rate on the 200 size S-Waver?

Hi Deep, 

I haven't really checked sink rate on the 200 S-Waver. On these I just do a count down which normally is anywhere from a 15 in shallower water to a 40 count in deeper (the fish I posted above were on a 20 count and one hit on a light twitch before I started the retrieve and the other right after I started retrieve). We have lots of timber, so with the treble hooks I haven't let them hit bottom and been lucky getting it back several times already. I use the Weedless 68 and Weedless 8" Hudds for deeper water since I can work them over timber. 

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I actually prefer the River2sea Wide Glide than the S-waver. Maybe the 2 s wavers I purchased were just not a good batch because they do not glide all that great, but the Wide Glide which I just used for the first time last week as my buddy came to visit and he is a big time musky and Pike guy from up North, and his box was full of Musky baits and most of them were some form of glide bait like suicks and I was drawn to the looks of the Wide Glide 120mm since it is not as huge and the bass are just starting to get really active here in Florida the last few weeks and I have used the wide glide floating and suspending 2 times since, 1x in a small pond where the fish were suspended in an area under some bushes and floating weeds in 12' of water, and 1x in a 25 acre private lake which is my favorite this time of year since the 2 spawning flats are right near a breakline that goes from maybe 2-4' to about 10' but kind of gradual and there is submerged vegetation growing all year but now it is thin and in most places you have a few feet to work so the glide baits are my new favorite lure to throw, I also must add, the Rapala Subwalk is more of a subsurface walking lure but it does a bit of a glide and the xr-7 is just the right size for long casts and gets crushed.

At the end of the day, you can use a lot of softplastics for gliding, the Zoom Mag Trick worms glide really well, I like to add a nail in the back and use a light hook in the front, also some flukes glide well, any bait that has a flat bottom is good, but key is to get the balancing right at least that is what I am learning....The SK Caffiene shad glides nicely as well and is a heavy fluke so it can be manipulated like he sluggo, or or if you want a inexpensive but quality glide bait, the Rapala Gliding rap is the size of a good size bluegill and the Herky Jerky Jr. By bomber are glide baits designed for Musky and Stripers, but I just put them in my bass bag as they are the size of a decent bluegill and I would imagine will work every bit as good as any other glide bait, but

Wide Glide 120-River2sea-9.99, internal paint, quality components, has a nice shimmy after the turn, takes some practice but you can work it rod down or up with the tip to get the gliding action, It is awesome when they miss it, I just keep it going and they often miss it 2-3x but almost always get it on the roll when paused and ready to make the next glide. Fun lure, I like River2sea stuff, just have not been happy with the s-waver but I read that they are like any other lure, maybe 25% are not going to ever run right since they are mass produced on assembly lines overseas like all other plastic baits. I am sure they will work for stripers fished as a swimbait though, they look awesome.

Wow, that is officially the longest sentence I've ever seen!

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Hi Deep, 

I haven't really checked sink rate on the 200 S-Waver. On these I just do a count down which normally is anywhere from a 15 in shallower water to a 40 count in deeper (the fish I posted above were on a 20 count and one hit on a light twitch before I started the retrieve and the other right after I started retrieve). We have lots of timber, so with the treble hooks I haven't let them hit bottom and been lucky getting it back several times already. I use the Weedless 68 and Weedless 8" Hudds for deeper water since I can work them over timber. 

 

Sounds good. Thanks.

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They don't all sink the same so you can get varying responses. I guess the best answer I could give for ROF is pretty slow usually. If you start to fish fast it will want to rise. They best way the alter the ROF is change out hooks for heavier and lighter. As for who said there baits don't glide we'll. The smaller the bait the less of a glide it will make. A 168 will never glide like a 200. If you chop your retrieve and time it right it is kind of like continually retrieving bit the slight pause will make them glide way out to the side.

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The early s-waivers were faster sinking and don't have the R2 in the eye. The current ones sink at aprox 6 in per second.

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The early s-waivers were faster sinking and don't have the R2 in the eye. The current ones sink at aprox 6 in per second.

 

 

The early s-waivers were faster sinking and don't have the R2 in the eye. The current ones sink at aprox 6 in per second.

 

On what line? Fluoro, mono, and braid would all cause the lure to have a different sink rate.

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The early s-waivers were faster sinking and don't have the R2 in the eye. The current ones sink at aprox 6 in per second.

 

 

On what line? Fluoro, mono, and braid would all cause the lure to have a different sink rate.

6" per second is right about what I'm getting with 20lb copolymer. 

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