benthinkin Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 So the question is, are some lures or techniques more susceptible to the bass learning them? What lures or techniques are less susceptible to the bass learning them? Any facts, reasons, observations, thoughts or hunches are accepted. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 11, 2014 Global Moderator Posted December 11, 2014 I think some of your less realistic baits are probably easier for a bass to get wary of. Stuff like spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, and crankbaits that don't look quite as natural and make a lot of disturbance seem to be less effective in the heavily pressured lakes. 1 Quote
benthinkin Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 I think some of your less realistic baits are probably easier for a bass to get wary of. Stuff like spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, and crankbaits that don't look quite as natural and make a lot of disturbance seem to be less effective in the heavily pressured lakes. Where as finesse presentations like a drop shot are more likely to be effective in the long term Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 11, 2014 Global Moderator Posted December 11, 2014 Where as finesse presentations like a drop shot are more likely to be effective in the long term Exactly, or a jig, swimbait, shakyhead, anything that looks or moves more like something a fish eats every day. Not to say that there won't be days that a spinnerbait or crankbait burning by a finicky fish might not trigger a strike better than trying to shake a little worm in their face though. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 The spinnerbait is my favorite bait but it is also the one that bass get conditioned to first, at least it seems that way. During the mid fall there are places that the fish will group up as they make their way to wintering holes, I'd catch 3 on a spinnerbait and then make a dozen casts without a as much as a follow, then put a crankbait on and catch another 5 or 6 and go back to the spinnerbait only to find they won't take it but you can still catch them on a good crank. I'm also going to say rattling cranks, the same scenario is why I fell in love with the DT series, it seems balsa cranks are the last of the hard baits that the fish get accustomed to. Quote
Super User HoosierHawgs Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 Any type of 'contact bait' (jigs, soft plastics of any type) give off no negative cues. They look natural, act erratic, and feel/taste natural. On the other hand, a moving lure w/a built in action is not as erratic, and generally do not taste/feel like the real thing. Quote
Super User Catch and Grease Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 I read somewhere that a study showed that the plastic worm is the one lure that bass can 100% not remember after being caught on it numerous times... Dunno if there is any truth to that, can someone back it up? 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 I read somewhere that a study showed that the plastic worm is the one lure that bass can 100% not remember after being caught on it numerous times... Dunno if there is any truth to that, can someone back it up?I've caught the same fish four times in a week with a plastic worm, maybe I could have caught it again but I didn't go there every day. Dunno if that means that either bass are really stupid or I'm good at ketchin' em. Quote
Super User Senko lover Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 One of my ponds is a neighborhood one that gets an amazing amount of pressure for such a small pond. Everything from little kids with spiderman combos to diehard anglers like me and some of my friends. Those fish won't even look at topwater. They've seen SO many rattling, vibrating, chugging, walking, and wiggling baits that soft plastics are the way to go. The only time I'd throw topwater would be after dark. Quote
Super User Master Bait'r Posted December 11, 2014 Super User Posted December 11, 2014 I read somewhere that a study showed that the plastic worm is the one lure that bass can 100% not remember after being caught on it numerous times... Dunno if there is any truth to that, can someone back it up? I would believe that. I've definitely caught the same fish multiple times on a worm. Also my go-to is stealthily finesse fishing with small worms or pit bosses, etc. so that could be partially attributed to sheer usage. Quote
benthinkin Posted December 12, 2014 Author Posted December 12, 2014 This would also explain why there are so many "fads" in bass fishing. A new rig is brought to market and it slays the fish because the bass have never seen it before not because it is superior to any previously existing rig. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted December 12, 2014 Super User Posted December 12, 2014 According to Uncle Homer Circle and Glen Lau's studies of the largemouth bass larger bass will hide when they hear the trolling motor come by their area. This behavior is due to being caught many times after they hear or feel the trolling motor. I would think that one type of bait thrown time and time again will allow some of the older bass to know that these strange looking things in the water are not fun to eat and therefore avoid them. That could be why we catch so many young bass as opposed to the big, old lunkers. Now with what Uncle Homer and Lau state I would also have to add that a bass will probably not remember that much about a bait but if they are caught and released time and time again they may become accustomed to our baits and ignore them until you aggravate them into hitting it. But I will add that I think a bass will remember only so much about our baits for a few hours or days after being caught and then will attack our baits once again when they see them. Quote
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