Lip 'em! Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I will be putting some graphs on my new boat this winter and I am having trouble deciding whether I am going to put an HDS10 at the console and an 8 up front, or go with two 9 touches instead. I have used both the Gen2 and the touch, but i have spent more time with the standard Gen2. My question for those of you that either own or have experience with both is what are the advantages and disadvantages of each, and which would you choose over the other and why? The main disadvantage of the touch I can see will be having to use data gloves when it is cold as regular gloves would hinder its performance. Thanks in advance for the responses! Quote
Todd Driscoll Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 The ONLY disadvantage with Touch units is the cold weather/gloves deal. Otherwise, it's all positives moving from the keypad units to the Touch. The biggest advantages include easier, quicker, more intuitive unit navigation and menu selections, built-in LSS capabilities, and complete compatibility with the HDI ducer (gives you both 2D sonar and downscan at the bow unit when mounted on the trolling motor). Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 I have a T9 and like everything about it except having to pull off my gloves to change anything. I can't find any gloves except ladies small in this whole area. I have tried several styluses and non of them work except bare handed. I am holding off on getting another touch as it is ranging from 20s t09 40s here and I am fishing with gloves and my G 1 HDS 8 has those nice buttons that I can push. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 There are a bunch of brands of gloves out that will work with touch screens. Most focus around cell phone use or ipad. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 I saw a post on another site that a guy just wears regular gloves and gets the tip of a finger wet to operate the touch screen. I tried that with cotton gloves and it works with my tablets and smartphone. The dry fingers don't. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 There are a bunch of brands of gloves out that will work with touch screens. Most focus around cell phone use or ipad. Mike that may be so but not around here. All anyone has been able to show me is the very small ones so I'll have to keep pulling off my gloves cause I'm not having a wet finger when the air is 27° and the water 39° like it was yesterday morning. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 Mike that may be so but not around here. All anyone has been able to show me is the very small ones so I'll have to keep pulling off my gloves cause I'm not having a wet finger when the air is 27° and the water 39° like it was yesterday morning. You don't have to soak your glove finger, just dampen the surface a little with your tongue. That is what I did. My finger didn't get wet and the glove surface moisture was gone in a couple of minutes. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 You don't have to soak your glove finger, just dampen the surface a little with your tongue. That is what I did. My finger didn't get wet and the glove surface moisture was gone in a couple of minutes. That I'll try. Your previous post brought up images of dipping a finger into that icy water and using it all day long. I'm heading to the boat right now to give that a try. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 4, 2014 Super User Posted December 4, 2014 It worked like a charm with my black USG golf rain gloves but didn't work at all with my beaded jerseys which I wear in colder times. Thanks for the tip and added clarity Wayne. 1 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted December 10, 2014 Super User Posted December 10, 2014 Jig Man I find it hard to believe that you can't find a pair of gloves. You managed to find this site on the good old world wide web and there are literally hundreds if not thousands of retailers on here where you could purchase such gloves. http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Jersey-Grip-Dot-Gloves/product/1211160522244/ To answer OP question, the only reason to buy a non-touch unit would be to save money if you had no interest in side scan or down scan. If you do then the touch is a better option. It provides better plug and play capability. During the colder months, you can use the shortcut to switch between your favorite screens without having to use the touch screen. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 10, 2014 Super User Posted December 10, 2014 Jig Man I find it hard to believe that you can't find a pair of gloves. You managed to find this site on the good old world wide web and there are literally hundreds if not thousands of retailers on here where you could purchase such gloves. http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Jersey-Grip-Dot-Gloves/product/1211160522244/ To answer OP question, the only reason to buy a non-touch unit would be to save money if you had no interest in side scan or down scan. If you do then the touch is a better option. It provides better plug and play capability. During the colder months, you can use the shortcut to switch between your favorite screens without having to use the touch screen. It seems the touch screens were a good idea until they were not. The Lowrance GEN3 units will a combo touch/button operation like the Humminbird ONIX. The new issue of the ONIX will be button-only models. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted December 10, 2014 Super User Posted December 10, 2014 It seems the touch screens were a good idea until they were not. The Lowrance GEN3 units will a combo touch/button operation like the Humminbird ONIX. The new issue of the ONIX will be button-only models. Interesting info. I really like my touch screen, it seems to make navigation so much easier. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted December 31, 2014 Super User Posted December 31, 2014 It seems the touch screens were a good idea until they were not. The Lowrance GEN3 units will a combo touch/button operation like the Humminbird ONIX. The new issue of the ONIX will be button-only models. My current sonar/gps unit is the 'Humminbird Onix', and unfortunately you're correct. Although the unit does everything, including live onsite charting, my bug list for the Humminbird Onix is as long as my arm. One of my main beefs is their touchscreen, which only works about 2/3 the time. When I'm serious about drilling-down fast, I use the buttons only. Roger Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 31, 2014 Super User Posted December 31, 2014 My current sonar/gps unit is the 'Humminbird Onix', and unfortunately you're correct. Although the unit does everything, including live onsite charting, my bug list for the Humminbird Onix is as long as my arm. One of my main beefs is their touchscreen, which only works about 2/3 the time. When I'm serious about drilling-down fast, I use the buttons only. Roger Have you installed the current software? That is supposed to fix all the stuff you mentioned. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted December 31, 2014 Super User Posted December 31, 2014 Have you installed the current software? That is supposed to fix all the stuff you mentioned. I thought I did Wayne, but now that you mention it, I'm going to verify that I have the latest update Roger Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 31, 2014 Super User Posted December 31, 2014 I thought I did Wayne, but now that you mention it, I'm going to verify that I have the latest update Roger I think you would remember that since the software file is so large. I'll PM you a thread that discussed that software for your reference. Read all of it. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted December 31, 2014 Super User Posted December 31, 2014 I think you would remember that since the software file is so large. I'll PM you a thread that discussed that software for your reference. Read all of it. I purchased the Onix August, 2014, and (as usual) the shelf version was upgraded to the 'then' current v1.2 (a sizable update). I checked back since then and there was no update. Just now I went to the "My Hummingbird" site and sure enough, they're now on version 2.0. Thanks Wayne for giving me a boot (excuse the pun) ;-) Roger Quote
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