Flipping And Pitching, Micro Guides Yay Or Nay

[reb67]

Looking for a starter flipping and pitching rod.

 

One of my local sporting good stores as a 7-6 ex heavy fast action with micro guides discounted.

 

Not sure of make and model a friend told me about it just course what you guys think about the micro guides before I go and look at it.

[Jrob78]

I use micro guides for everything.  I don't really flip but they don't negatively effect pitching at all.  

[F14A-B]

I have a 7'11" with pacbay minimas on it, I like them just fine, I also use rods with macros and tradition sized guides. Pay close attention to the inserts before you buy, it's easier to miss a crack or damage on micros... But they work great on the right rods...

[Tywithay]

Depends how micro. Something like a Fuji K-Series is acceptable. Those tiny guides on some of the Ducketts are just ignorant.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

The smallest, lightest guides that will pass the line and necessary connections and withstand expected stress levels are the best choice. On a flipping/pitching rod where you will use 50# braid and a leader a size 4 or 4.5 works fine.

[Jrob78]

Depends how micro. Something like a Fuji K-Series is acceptable. Those tiny guides on some of the Ducketts are just ignorant.

I think the guides on the Duckett's are a size 4.  They look tiny but don't detract from casting performance, unless you're trying to pass leader knots.  I use 20 lb fluoro with size 4 guides all the time.  

[Tywithay]

I think the guides on the Duckett's are a size 4.  They look tiny but don't detract from casting performance, unless you're trying to pass leader knots.  I use 20 lb fluoro with size 4 guides all the time.  

The Micro Magic I replaced the guides on for a friend had 3mm. Just doesn't work in a KS summer, when the cottonwoods make the water nasty.

[Jrob78]

The Micro Magic I replaced the guides on for a friend had 3mm. Just doesn't work in a KS summer, when the cottonwoods make the water nasty.

That is another scenario that micro guides don't excel in.  I just don't have to deal with cottonwood trees.  I also don't have to worry about freezing temperatures much and I don't use leaders.  Micro guides definitely aren't for all circumstances.  The weight reduction is well worth it for me though.

[Tywithay]

That is another scenario that micro guides don't excel in.  I just don't have to deal with cottonwood trees.  I also don't have to worry about freezing temperatures much and I don't use leaders.  Micro guides definitely aren't for all circumstances.  The weight reduction is well worth it for me though.

I prefer a spiral wrap for weight reduction. I'd much rather use less guides than smaller guides.  

[Fisher-O-men]

We do not have many cottonwoods out here but many plants around our lakes put off cotton-like seeds.  They clog up the micro guides. They keep the line clean, though.

[Bluebasser86]

Another situation you may not want micro guides is if you fish during the winter. I have to switch to a different flipping stick during the winter because the micro guides ice up too fast and make it even more impossible to fish. 

[Jrob78]

I prefer a spiral wrap for weight reduction. I'd much rather use less guides than smaller guides.  

I prefer both on my personal rods.

[ww2farmer]

Nay for me, I had a pitching rod with micro guides and my fluoro to braid leader knot going through the guides drove me nuts. It "flows" through "normal" sized guides much better. We also have a couple weeks every year hear where the cottonwood trees spew there crap around every body of water. That stuff would clog up micro guides so bad,  I almost wanted to break the rod over my knee. No micros for me ever again.

[gulfcaptain]

Have done it with micro's, minima, and standard.  Micro's if you're going to use a leader.....18"'s keeps the connection out of the tip and works fine.  I don't have to worry about freezing temps.  Haven't noticed any difference in all three for pitching and flipping with braid or when using the shorter lenght leader.