Aaron Martens Gear Ratios

[Catch and Grease]

Ha! I'm not crazy lol. New article on another site talks about this very issue

“That said, a larger 200-size reel is always going to retrieve faster than a smaller spool. I can use a 5.3:1 in a 200 EXO ower, casts farther and still retrieves as fast or faster than a 6.6:1 reel with a 100-size spool.”

Greg hackney talking about his reel choices

Yeah I didn't even think about the really wide spools, they can cast far without losing a lot of diamrter allowing them to keep high IPT

[aavery2]

Ha! I'm not crazy lol. New article on another site talks about this very issue

“That said, a larger 200-size reel is always going to retrieve faster than a smaller spool. I can use a 5.3:1 in a 200 EXO ower, casts farther and still retrieves as fast or faster than a 6.6:1 reel with a 100-size spool.”

Greg hackney talking about his reel choices

Kind of an apple to oranges comparison don't you think?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Spool capacity is a function of width, arbor and diameter combined. The 100 vs 200 logic is somewhat flawed since there's no standard. It's the diameter of the full spool and ratio that determines IPT. Yes, IPT decreases as line peels off the spool, so a narrow, deep spool will have a little more variance than a wider spool of the same depth and diameter. 

[J Francho]

The 100 and 200 species of EXO reels are drastically different in size.  The 300 is just a bit wider than the 200, but spool diameter is the same.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Yes, and I should have clarified, I was talking comparing reel sizes about across brand lines. 

[J Francho]

This will help illustrate Hackney's comments.  I have no idea what the IPT measurements are on each of the ratios, so I can't really confirm his assertions.

 

[ww2farmer]

I have always deep cranked with a 5.something :1 reel. I think next season I am going to use a 6.3:1, at least to start to see if I like it, but also.........for two reasons #1 It's a lot easier and less fatiguing to reel slower with a fast reel, than to reel faster with a slow reel. #2 Today's 6:1 reels with there over size gears, and longer 90 or 95mm handles handle high torque with less strain then the reels of just 10-12 years ago. And #3 A lot of the deep diving crankbaits on the market today, like the SK 5xd, 6xd (which are what Iuse), pull very easy on non-cranking specific gear, the same can't be said for some of the other baits I used to use.........Manns depth + and Norman baits come to mind.

[J Francho]

I'm sort of with you....I crank with Sol/Alphas reels - 5.8:1.  They're small spools, but I tried a few other "cranking" reels, namely a Zillion Crazy Cranker, and Revo Winch, and they were too slow for me.  I have a Pinnacle cranking reel on the way, for deep divers so we'll see how I like that reel.  I think it's 5.5:1.

[Grantman83]

Kind of an apple to oranges comparison don't you think?

My only point in posting this and the KVD quote was that guys are using lower gear ratios but those reels have wider spools which bring in line faster than a low gear ratio normally would. In essence, they are attempting to gain line pickup and have an easier time doing it. Aaron Martens/Keith Combs just suck it up and uses the higher gear ratio. Both groups (hackney,kvd vs. Martens/combs) are going for a fast retrieve, just in different ways

[J Francho]

Width has an indirect effect on IPT, through out the retrieve.  A wider spool loses less IPT as line is cast out.  Spool Diameter has greater effect.  Spool depth and/or capacity has no effect without knowing width and diameter, relative to the other reel you're comparing.

[aavery2]

My only point in posting this and the KVD quote was that guys are using lower gear ratios but those reels have wider spools which bring in line faster than a low gear ratio normally would. In essence, they are attempting to gain line pickup and have an easier time doing it. Aaron Martens/Keith Combs just suck it up and uses the higher gear ratio. Both groups (hackney,kvd vs. Martens/combs) are going for a fast retrieve, just in different ways

I think it is a good idea, to an extent. A spinning reel would offer similar results. I am not sure my thinking is clear, but couldn't you put a shallow spool in a cranking reel and achieve a similar result?

[WRB]

Circumference = pi (3.1416) x diameter.

Wider spool the spooled line diameter remain full longer, smaller line diameter reduces the spooled line diameter slower.

2.00 diameter spooled line = 6.283" circumference

1.75 diameter ". ". = 5.498. "

1.50 diameter. ". ". = 4.712. "

Do the math.

Tom